Hey I think Canada might invades us... Rump insulted their health care system....
On Oct 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > I dunno, I’ll ask. > > *From:* Travis Johnson > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:27 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > Hi, > > Just curious, do you know what her tax rates are like? It seems like the > money has to come from somewhere for National Health Care, so I'm curious > if it's part of their income tax structure, or somewhere else? > > Travis > > > On 10/10/2016 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Some things should not see competition. > Municipal water and sewer systems for example. Streets, roads and > highways. > One can make a pretty good argument for the power company. Gas company. > Less so for Telco and CATV. > > So what is healthcare? Similar to national defense? We already have 5-6 > branches of the armed forces duplicating services there. > Similar to public education? We have competition there too. (Are the > Merchant Marine their own branch?) > > I have a daughter that lives in England. She loves the National Health > System. And they have private doctors if they want them too. > > Somebody will win a nobel prize in economics if they can model this and > produce the correct answer. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:47 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics > > I struggle to recall much of anything that thrives, innovates, and is > efficient without competition. > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I still think that it would be better with a single payer system like >> what's in use in most other countries in the world. >> >> Problem is we would have to figure out how to do that without letting the >> government administer it. >> >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 10/10/2016 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> Amen. >> >> (I was actually hoping the ACA would bring insurance to low income >> folks. Didn’t happen. I personally know a handful that tried and could >> not get something they could afford. Even the low cost packages had >> deductable like $1500. Stay poor and stay on Medicaid was my advice to >> them...) >> >> *From:* Lewis Bergman >> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics >> >> The trouble with facts is the government is in charge of keeping them so >> it is very difficult to get a real picture of what has or is going on. >> What is a surplus? well, most administrations that I remember state that >> they have a surplus when the money they spent was less than they were going >> to spend or the money they were going to spend was less than what they took >> in. >> >> None of how the government accounts for money would work for anyone who >> can't print their own. It doesn't matter who is in charge, it is extremely >> difficult to plow through all the BS they throw up to get to the real >> numbers. Doesn't matter if it is deportations and what counts as one, >> "saving money" and what counts as that, some word called winning which I'll >> be damned if I know what that means anymore. Trump uses that word a lot but >> I am not sure he can explain what he mans by it. >> >> I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so hard to imagine that we >> are in this mess. But democracy is messy. The good news is that the >> president can hardly ruin everything without a lot of cooperation. Even >> Obama could barely get healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these >> characters are so well hated by so many I can't imagine they will be able >> to do anything but appoint people and make executive orders. >> >> Of course, it is better for the economy when congress can't pass laws >> anyway. >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump is there to make others >> look good _BY Comparison_... When looked at on absolute scales other >> things may be observed... >> >> On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> > The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as >> > opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other >> > than himself or his "companies". >> > >> > >> > bp >> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> > >> > On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> >> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation... >> >> >> >> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the >> >>> legislation. >> >>> >> >>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two >> to >> >>> tango. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> bp >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> >> >>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> >>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it... BC was just lucky to be sitting >> >>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he >> >>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years >> >>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency.. Not >> inspiring >> >>>> in any way... But we are now wedged and your advice is correct. We >> >>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her >> >>>> last days in office. >> >>>> >> >>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the >> >>>>> advent >> >>>>> of the commercial internet. That is what produced the surplus, he >> >>>>> just >> >>>>> lucked out. His decisions to deregulate mortgage banking is what >> >>>>> brought us all back down in 2008. >> >>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their >> >>>>> infidelity) >> >>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me. >> >>>>> In my mind the game is over. 4 years of watching something that >> could >> >>>>> have been so much better lies ahead. Been through it before, can >> >>>>> endure >> >>>>> it again. >> >>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of >> governments.... >> >>>>> except for all the others. >> >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM >> >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics >> >>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state facts.....not >> >>>>> shit you >> >>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch.. >> >>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words) >> >>>>> balanced the >> >>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he didn't do it >> >>>>> BFM...(By >> >>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took both sides to get >> >>>>> those >> >>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do anyways, but he >> >>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the Republican resistance, >> >>>>> got >> >>>>> us out of the recession. Trump used the recession to make >> >>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming >> >>>>> Obama >> >>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas Board of >> >>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter who does >> >>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents cheated on their >> >>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner for just >> >>>>> that...cheating >> >>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school, but if a man >> >>>>> cheats on >> >>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in that relationship? >> >>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot >> >>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this list >> >>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich or a >> >>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous ...NBC >> >>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from social >> >>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is what >> >>>>> will do >> >>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING REALITY SHOW YOU >> MORON >> >>>>> TRUMP!!! I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the >> >>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of >> >>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a >> >>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will >> not >> >>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too many >> of >> >>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want to change >> >>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets see how it >> >>>>> plays >> >>>>> out on November 8th.... >> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >> >>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >> >>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator >> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for >> >>>>> you, ask >> >>>>> what you can do for your country.”____* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *____* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT ! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *$19,493,291,113,808____* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *____* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter. >> >>>>> I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s >> >>>>> feelings on >> >>>>> the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Steve B.____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____ >> >>>>> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >
