It is unfortunate that you can't get the Toyota HiAce (high roof version)
van in the US. They have all the great interior room of a Sprinter, with
none of the Mercedes BS repair costs/unnecessary complications. They're
nearly as mechanically simple and robust as a Hilux.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hiace+high+roof&num=100&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqo5_c9eLPAhVUHGMKHekoCQ8Q_AUICCgB



On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> Yep - all 4 styles.   One of these days I’ll find one I like :-)     Your
> more than welcome to come visit.
>
> Transit - good van, only thing I don’t like is the weird masking on the
> windshield for the (nonexistent) rear view mirror.
> Nissan has been very reliable but loses a lot of storage area to the
> ‘truck’ front end.
> Promasters are roomier than the Ford.  So far so good - but they are all
> pretty new.
> Sprinter - were nice to drive when new, not so much now.  Reliability has
> been poor, maintenance extremely expensive, and not even the Mercedes
> dealer can figure out how to fix them when they break.   I don’t believe we
> will ever buy another Sprinter.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> You have all three?!?!  I'm looking at the Transit, NV and Sprinter.  I'd
> love to visit if you could spare some of your time.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> Come visit - you can check out the Ford Transit, Nissan NV, Chrysler
>> Promaster, and Freightliner Sprinter versions.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'll have to see some examples before I decide.  I like the safety part
>> of it, but I'd rather be able to go from driver seat to the back without
>> walking around the entire vehicle.  I also like the idea of dual sliding
>> doors for the same reason.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also whether to add a partition along with those shelves.  (so you can
>>> make extra money transporting prisoners on weekends)  (or picking up stray
>>> dogs)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So it sounds like everyone is pretty happy with Ford work vans
>>> (excluding the chinsey Connect).  Just need Ranger shelves and Prime Design
>>> ladder racks for stuff and job's done?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 5:37 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have the Prime Design on our 2010 E150. It has the permanently
>>> attached collapsible handles. Not sure exactly which model. That's the only
>>> rack I'd put on any new truck.
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2016 4:20 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>
>>> Prime Design is the one with the ladders centered over the van.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who makes the good one?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2016 4:48 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> All of the Prime Design ones I have seen have the removable handle.    I
>>> think some of the WeatherGuard ones for the lower vans have the flip down
>>> handle.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Horrible ladder rack… Ladder hanging over the side, handle sticking out
>>> even farther:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <IMG_0464.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good design:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <IMG_0465.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve seen vans with the Prime Design racks with the handle folded and
>>> stowed like you say.  I don’t know if that’s a newer design or maybe just
>>> for low roof vans or something, but yes there seems to be a discrepancy.
>>> Sounds like Mark has them, maybe he can chime in?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically that, but the ones I'm familiar with the pole is always
>>> connected, and once the ladder is in place the pole folds against the side
>>> of the vehicle up top and has a spot for a padlock.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2016 11:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:55 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good ladder kits mount the ladders on top. There is a level that pulls
>>> the ladder down to the side of the vehicle, then you just pull it off the
>>> hangers. They also have locks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2016 1:36 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> For those with the higher roof vans, two questions.
>>>
>>> Can you go through a fast food drive through?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you get ladders on /off?  Do they make a ladder kit that flips
>>> over the side or something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We like the dual sliding doors.  We install shelving on the driver side
>>> door entry way for easy access to tools.  The Transit connects are decent.
>>> The full size transits are too large for us - mileage is too big of a hit.
>>> I’m sure they will last longer but by the time they are 5 or 6 years old
>>> the wrap is tired and it’s worth nothing, new stuff is out, might as well
>>> just plan on a 4 year replacement cycle and have something that always
>>> works.  We’ve had some issues with the older transit connects as they get
>>> into the 100k mileage range.  Our new vans are Promaster Cities.  They get
>>> better mileage than our Transit Connects and are hopefully a little
>>> tougher.  There are some great incentives on the Ram Promaster City vans
>>> right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Falaschi
>>>
>>> e-vergent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am also looking at Ford Transit, medium roof 130” wheelbase 3.5L
>>> Ecoboost.  Trying to decide if the dual sliding doors option is brilliant
>>> or stupid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A dealer near me bought up a bunch of 2016 Transits with hail damage, I
>>> decided to pass on that.  I think that means a salvage title.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I already have a Tacoma which is great, but I'm looking for a second
>>> vehicle for a second driver.  I'd like to try a work van to keep everything
>>> inside.  Maybe even warm parts for the winter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking at the Ford Transit and would love to hear of any additional
>>> suggestions/experiences.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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