Adam, I understand what you are saying but that independent audit was about as independent as the FBI investigation. You are categorizing by destination of funds, not what was actually spent on the charity target itself. If you break down the spending in each target category, the spent very, very little as the IRS showed.
Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Sorry, but no that's completely backwards. The 6% or so is the amount they re-donate to other charities. I.E.: Not counting the work the foundation itself actually does. The source for the 5.7 or 6% number you see quoted around is an IRS Form 990. An audit by a third party came up with the 89% number. Keeping in mind that the audit makes no claims about the effectiveness of their programs, just in how the money was spent. That also doesn't say anything about whether anything criminal did or didn't happen with regards to the organization. I am not voting for Clinton or supporting Clinton. I just prefer if discussions stay factual. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 10/17/2016 2:20:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics That was the public relations story until the IRS came through and did an audit. The 5.7% was their number. Robert Farley and Factcheck are wrong. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/ "Considering all of the organizations affiliated with the Clinton Foundation, he said, CharityWatch concluded<https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478> about 89 percent of its budget is spent on programs. That’s the amount it spent on charity in 2013, he said. We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in reported expenses. We can’t vouch for the effectiveness of the programming expenses listed in the report, but it is clear that the claim that the Clinton Foundation only steers 6 percent of its donations to charity is wrong, and amounts to a misunderstanding of how public charities work. — Robert Farley" On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: You mean the 5.7% of the income they actually spent on charities or the 94% they spent on salaries, travel, and other expenses? -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Sam Morris Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Or the thousands pf people employed by his companies. On 10/10/2016 2:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as > opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other > than himself or his "companies". > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation... >> >> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the >>> legislation. >>> >>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two >>> to tango. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it... BC was just lucky to be sitting >>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he >>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years >>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency.. Not inspiring >>>> in any way... But we are now wedged and your advice is correct. We >>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her >>>> last days in office. >>>> >>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the >>>>> advent of the commercial internet. That is what produced the >>>>> surplus, he just lucked out. His decisions to deregulate mortgage >>>>> banking is what brought us all back down in 2008. >>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their >>>>> infidelity) >>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me. >>>>> In my mind the game is over. 4 years of watching something that >>>>> could have been so much better lies ahead. Been through it >>>>> before, can endure it again. >>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of governments.... >>>>> except for all the others. >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics Now you sound like my Trump >>>>> loving buddy....state facts.....not shit you hear from Hannity, >>>>> OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch.. >>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words) >>>>> balanced the budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he >>>>> didn't do it BFM...(By Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it >>>>> took both sides to get those things going....Knock Obama all you >>>>> want, you do anyways, but he inherited a shit storm and even with >>>>> all the Republican resistance, got >>>>> us out of the recession. Trump used the recession to make >>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming >>>>> Obama for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas >>>>> Board of Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter >>>>> who does it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents >>>>> cheated on their wives...I bought out my first business partner >>>>> for just that...cheating on his wife and children...Guess I am old >>>>> school, but if a man cheats on those close to him, where the hell >>>>> do I stand in that relationship? >>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot >>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this >>>>> list about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich >>>>> or a celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous >>>>> ...NBC suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from >>>>> social media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is >>>>> what will do him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING >>>>> REALITY SHOW YOU MORON >>>>> TRUMP!!! I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the >>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of >>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a >>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will >>>>> not ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too >>>>> many of us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want >>>>> to change voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets >>>>> see how it plays out on November 8th.... >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator >>>>> <wirel...@htn.net<mailto:wirel...@htn.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for >>>>> you, ask >>>>> what you can do for your country.”____* >>>>> >>>>> *____* >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT ! >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> *$19,493,291,113,808____* >>>>> >>>>> *____* >>>>> >>>>> It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter. >>>>> I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s >>>>> feelings on >>>>> the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> Steve B.____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>>>> ____ >>>>> >>> > >
