I think you can still write it off, but you have to do it via depreciation, etc. Leases are just much simpler.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 10/17/2016 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Why can't you write off that?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Oct 17, 2016 8:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

    If you aren’t taking the writeoff on leasing or purchasing, a far
    better value is getting an E-150 with 60-100K miles for $15K fully
    loaded with shelves, ladder racks, inverters, and other things we
    normally have to add.  eBay has them all the time.  Considering
    the drive train should last 300-500K miles (mines at 393K miles
    and runs like a top), it’s a massive savings.

    Rory

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
    *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 4:37 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

    That sure sounds like Transit wins in your book =)

    I'll get with you someday soon to figure out a time if that works
    for you.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net
    <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

Yep - all 4 styles. One of these days I’ll find one I like :-) Your more than welcome to come visit.

    Transit - good van, only thing I don’t like is the weird masking
    on the windshield for the (nonexistent) rear view mirror.

    Nissan has been very reliable but loses a lot of storage area to
    the ‘truck’ front end.

    Promasters are roomier than the Ford.  So far so good - but they
    are all pretty new.

Sprinter - were nice to drive when new, not so much now. Reliability has been poor, maintenance extremely expensive, and
    not even the Mercedes dealer can figure out how to fix them when
    they break.   I don’t believe we will ever buy another Sprinter.

    Mark

        On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman
        <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
        <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

        You have all three?!?!  I'm looking at the Transit, NV and
        Sprinter.  I'd love to visit if you could spare some of your time.


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh
        <m...@amplex.net <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

        Come visit - you can check out the Ford Transit, Nissan NV,
        Chrysler Promaster, and Freightliner Sprinter versions.

        Mark

            On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman
            <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

            I'll have to see some examples before I decide.  I like
            the safety part of it, but I'd rather be able to go from
            driver seat to the back without walking around the entire
            vehicle.  I also like the idea of dual sliding doors for
            the same reason.


            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ken Hohhof
            <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Also whether to add a partition along with those shelves. (so you can make extra money transporting prisoners on
            weekends)  (or picking up stray dogs)

            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
            *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

            So it sounds like everyone is pretty happy with Ford work
            vans (excluding the chinsey Connect). Just need Ranger
            shelves and Prime Design ladder racks for stuff and job's
            done?


            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 5:37 PM, George Skorup
            <geo...@cbcast.com <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

                We have the Prime Design on our 2010 E150. It has the
                permanently attached collapsible handles. Not sure
                exactly which model. That's the only rack I'd put on
                any new truck.

                On 10/15/2016 4:20 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

                    Prime Design is the one with the ladders centered
                    over the van.

                    Mark

                        On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman
                        <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
                        <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                        Who makes the good one?

                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
                        Suite 1337
                        Troy, OH 45373

                        On Oct 15, 2016 4:48 PM, "Mark Radabaugh"
                        <m...@amplex.net <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

                            All of the Prime Design ones I have seen
                            have the removable handle.    I think some
                            of the WeatherGuard ones for the lower
                            vans have the flip down handle.

                            Horrible ladder rack… Ladder hanging over
                            the side, handle sticking out even farther:

                            <IMG_0464.jpeg>

                            Good design:

                            <IMG_0465.jpeg>

                            Mark

                                On Oct 15, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Ken
                                Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
                                <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

                                I’ve seen vans with the Prime Design
                                racks with the handle folded and
                                stowed like you say. I don’t know if
                                that’s a newer design or maybe just
                                for low roof vans or something, but
                                yes there seems to be a discrepancy.
                                Sounds like Mark has them, maybe he
                                can chime in?

                                *From:*Af
                                [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
                                Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
                                *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM
                                *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for
                                work vans

                                Basically that, but the ones I'm
                                familiar with the pole is always
                                connected, and once the ladder is in
                                place the pole folds against the side
                                of the vehicle up top and has a spot
                                for a padlock.

                                On Oct 15, 2016 11:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof"
                                <af...@kwisp.com
                                <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA
                                    
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDkx87s6FmA>

                                    
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be
                                    
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqkK856WRI&feature=youtu.be>

                                    *From:*Af
                                    [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
                                    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
                                    Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
                                    *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016
                                    10:55 AM
                                    *To:* af@afmug.com
                                    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions
                                    for work vans

                                    Good ladder kits mount the ladders
                                    on top. There is a level that
                                    pulls the ladder down to the side
                                    of the vehicle, then you just pull
                                    it off the hangers. They also have
                                    locks.

                                    On Oct 15, 2016 1:36 AM, "Paul
                                    McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net
                                    <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

                                        For those with the higher roof
                                        vans, two questions.

                                        Can you go through a fast food
                                        drive through?

                                        How do you get ladders on
                                        /off?  Do they make a ladder
                                        kit that flips over the side
                                        or something?

                                        *From:*Af
                                        [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
                                        <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>]
                                        *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi
                                        *Sent:* Friday, October 7,
                                        2016 11:26 AM
                                        *To:* af@afmug.com
                                        <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
                                        Suggestions for work vans

                                        We like the dual sliding
                                        doors.  We install shelving on
                                        the driver side door entry way
                                        for easy access to tools.  The
Transit connects are decent. The full size transits are too
                                        large for us - mileage is too
                                        big of a hit.  I’m sure they
                                        will last longer but by the
                                        time they are 5 or 6 years old
                                        the wrap is tired and it’s
                                        worth nothing, new stuff is
                                        out, might as well just plan
                                        on a 4 year replacement cycle
                                        and have something that always
                                        works. We’ve had some issues
                                        with the older transit
                                        connects as they get into the
                                        100k mileage range.  Our new
vans are Promaster Cities. They get better mileage than
                                        our Transit Connects and are
                                        hopefully a little tougher.
                                        There are some great
                                        incentives on the Ram
                                        Promaster City vans right now.

                                        Joe Falaschi

                                        e-vergent

                                            On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:32
                                            AM, Ken Hohhof
                                            <af...@kwisp.com
                                            <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
                                            wrote:

                                            I am also looking at Ford
                                            Transit, medium roof 130”
                                            wheelbase 3.5L Ecoboost.
                                            Trying to decide if the
                                            dual sliding doors option
                                            is brilliant or stupid.

                                            A dealer near me bought up
                                            a bunch of 2016 Transits
                                            with hail damage, I
                                            decided to pass on that. I
                                            think that means a salvage
                                            title.

                                            *From:*Af
                                            [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]*On
                                            Behalf Of*Josh Luthman
                                            *Sent:*Tuesday, October 4,
                                            2016 11:10 AM
                                            *To:*af@afmug.com
                                            <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                                            *Subject:*[AFMUG]
                                            Suggestions for work vans

                                            I already have a Tacoma
                                            which is great, but I'm
                                            looking for a second
                                            vehicle for a second
                                            driver.  I'd like to try a
                                            work van to keep
                                            everything inside.  Maybe
                                            even warm parts for the
                                            winter.

                                            I'm looking at the Ford
                                            Transit and would love to
                                            hear of any additional
                                            suggestions/experiences.

                                            Josh Luthman
                                            Office: 937-552-2340
                                            <tel:937-552-2340>
                                            Direct: 937-552-2343
                                            <tel:937-552-2343>
                                            1100 Wayne St
                                            Suite 1337
                                            Troy, OH 45373


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