AF has a non symmetry in the TX and RX antennas.  If all the signal was coming 
out of the same antenna I would say that yes, it is hard to cause a non 
symmetry.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

RF paths though are almost always symmetric.

 

Most common cause would be xmt power set wrong or bad electronics.  Also 20 dB 
low is often symptomatic of a bad power amp on the xmt side or a bad RF switch 
on a TDD radio.

 

Only after all the horses have been investigated and eliminated would I start 
looking for zebras.

 

If you have a spare radio, I would swap out the radio at the xmt end of the bad 
path.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

 

I would bet on the tank causing problems.  You need to be 10-20 or more 
wavelengths away from anything to get predictable results.  

 

From: Craig House 

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 5:37 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

 

It's always been pretty accurate in the past and I have a pretty wide-open view 
I'm 85 feet up on the water tower that sits on a mountaintop on one end and I'm 
200 feet up on the building roof top on the other end. The odd part is that I 
am achieving that -65 signal on at least one of the chains. I have a feeling 
that it resting on the top of the tank is possibly causing some weird reflection

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On Oct 17, 2016, at 18:34, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

  Doesn't include land cover I bet

  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Oct 17, 2016 7:25 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

    Wink planner shows that it supposed to be a -65 signal

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    On Oct 17, 2016, at 18:20, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

      Plug into LinkPlanner

      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373

       

      On Oct 17, 2016 7:11 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

        Very close to the top of the water tower on the remote end.  It bottom 
of the dish is resting on hr tank because the mount wasn't stable enough with 
all the wind here today 45mph.  I'll raise it up and brace the mount tomorrow 
and see what happens.

        Sent from my iPhone

        > On Oct 17, 2016, at 18:03, David Kunat <m...@davidkunat.com> wrote:
        >
        > There are only two polarities on th af-x series.
        >
        > The first two are the receive signals at the local device.
        >
        > The second two (Rem chain0 and Rem chain 1) are the remote device 
receive levels (at the far end of the link).
        >
        > Is there something in the way? Are you shooting close to the ground 
or close to tree tops on one end?
        >
        >
        > > On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> 
wrote:
        > >
        > > So when you have one chain that shows almost 20 dbi weaker than the 
other 3 how do you tell which end to troubleshoot? I have already tried to 
point both ends better but they are 22 miles apart by air. 45 minutes by drive 
and I dont want to just keep driving and climbing if someone can tell me which 
end has the problem.
        > >
        > > Craig
        > > <link.PNG>

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