On 11/2/2016 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Unfortunately, I’m seeing people sign up for Hughesnet because they are 
promising those
sorts of speeds on their new satellite.

The good thing (if HughesNet is actually able to deliver those speeds) is that it means the customer hits their monthly use allotment sooner in the month, and either pays through the nose for more or gets throttled - both of which should be wins for you. :)

Just a couple weeks ago I upgraded a customer from HughesNet. She was concerned because I was giving her 5/1, and she had 20/5 from HughesNet, or so she though. She was beside herself at how much "snappier" (her word) our 5/1 service was than HughesNet. It may just be a latency thing, and if she downloaded a 1GB ISO from us as opposed to HughesNet, HughesNet may indeed transfer the file faster. But her perception is that we are way faster than what she had before. And no monthly use limits.




My experience with remote session like VPN and Citrix, and video/voice
networking tools like Skype and Google Hangouts and softphones, is that
they care about the QUALITY of the connection more than the QUANTITY.
If you have packet loss, or latency spikes, you are going to get “kicked
out of” your VPN and Citrix sessions,  and people will complain about
video and audio quality when you try to jump on a conference call.

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:48 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

What?  20/5 (or less) is still very adequate for *lots* of users.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Roger Timmerman <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Is this a re-run from 2005?  Are we really talking about 20M/5M or
    less still being an option and being adequate?

    On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        That could be part of it.  I work from home with 3m/1m.  It's
        not uncommon to have a kid watching cartoons on Netflix while
        I'm working.

        The thing is, most of what I'm doing across the network is
        remote terminals and remote desktops.  And I'm clever enough
        that when I need to transfer a large file to the office I'll use
        WinSCP and put a speed limit on the transfer so I can keep doing
        other things.  Some people might start the big file transfer and
        then call IT because nothing else works now.

        I'm aware that there are people using some Autodesk cloud
        storage/versioning thing that integrates with AutoCAD....they
        were told to /try /to get 10meg upload /if they can/ and I
        believe they might really use it.

        On 11/2/2016 12:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

            I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal
            with people causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs
            while they're trying to work, so they just tell them they
            need five times the speed they actually do.

            We've had customers that were told they needed something
            like 3Mbps upload, but were able to do their jobs perfectly
            fine on a plan with 1Mbps upload.

            On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good
                upstream to upload medical scans she does for several
                clinics and private doctors from house or retirement
                places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to
                accommodate her.

                On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective
                    customers say they needed a minimum of 20M/5M per
                    company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on the
                    5M upstream.

                    This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and
                    seems high to me.  In many cases even in town on
                    cable Internet, they will need at least a plan with
                    at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My
                    experience in the past has been that even our 3M/1M
                    plan is actually sufficient for most people to work
                    from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the
                    rest of the family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).

                    Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that
                    much upstream to work from home?  Or just a
                    coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many
                    weeks.


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