I’d also suggest the right answer….

There are many vendors/suppliers on this list .. most people on this list are 
in business themselves and “get it”.

The best way people can promote their service/product is by helping others on 
the list and showing some “assistance to the community” … if their email 
signature happens to mention the company they are from then I don’t think that 
spam … and sometimes that can help people with additional business 
relationships.

> On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:37 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> the respectful vendors send targeted offlists, not spam. I like that
> 
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 4:16 PM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> How you gonna stop someone from collecting addresses? 
> Some of you have AFMUG only email accounts so  you know a spammer got it 
> here. 
>  
> I think public shaming would be appropriate....  we are really good at that 
> here. 
>  
> I don’t have an issue if my distributors use this list to spam you on an 
> infrequent basis.  You all know them and they all know you so should not be a 
> big issue either way.  I have not even been spamming the list with my stuff.  
> I should but I am the laziest marketer on the planet. 
>  
> We do have swap meet Friday that does have official sanction. 
>  
> From: Paul McCall <>
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 2:31 PM
> To: [email protected] <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm group policy on vendors harvesting email 
> addresses from list
>  
> Guys,
> 
>  
> 
> While Chuck can speak more authoritatively to this subject, my take it is 
> that is a no-no.  Chuck certainly can do that as this is his list.  I pay 
> Amazon service fees and gladly manage the list for Free, but even I don't use 
> the email list for marketing. 
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck has allowed vendors that have been loyal to him over the years to post 
> advertisements, and that seems the more acceptable way to reach people on the 
> list.  If you notice, a lot of people have a specific email address for this 
> list (and/or others) for a reason.  They know when you are spamming them, and 
> that usually doesn’t earn the vendor a positive perception.
> 
>  
> 
> So, except for the really good Spam that would make us laugh, like "How to 
> increase your mortgage by 2 inches offered by the prince of Nigeria" I would 
> suggest the answer would be NO. 
> 
>  
> 
> /2cents complete from the List manager dude (shameless Plug below)
> 
>  
> 
> LOL J
> 
>  
> 
> Paul McCall
> 
> PDMNet, Inc.
> 
> www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/>
> AFMUG List manager
> 
> Florida Broadband WISP Owner
> 
> ** Friend of Chuck McCown **
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On 
> Behalf Of Ivan Kohler
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 2:34 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Animal Farm group policy on vendors harvesting email 
> addresses from list
> 
>  
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm writing to ask if AFMUG has a policy on vendors who harvest email 
> addresses from the mailing list for spamming.
> 
>  
> 
> WISPA does not allow vendors to do this, while conversely (and surprisingly), 
> FISPA allows its vendors to do this.
> 
>  
> 
> Does the group consider this practice acceptable?  Chuck, Paul?
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
> Ivan Kohler, President and Head Geek, Freeside Internet Services, Inc.
> 
> Open-source billing, ticketing and provisioning - http://www.freeside.biz/ 
> <http://www.freeside.biz/>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

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