That is funny, back in 1996, an Algerian defense contractor hired me to design a phone line sniffer that would decode faxes in real time. Fun project.
Secure it was not. Perhaps things have advanced from those days. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? The Federal government considers fax secure. I have no idea the rationale behind it, but they do. Applies to HIPAA also. On Nov 13, 2016 12:44 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: When FAX machines go away, we can start the 10 year countdown for IPv4 to go away. How is FAX still a thing? But it is, it won’t die, and many businesses absolutely need the ability to send FAXes, even if only to a couple places. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? the interwebs is kind of an innovative industry. Genpop has gotten a taste of ip6, they dont know what it is, but its new and must be better, so theyll demand it. somebody will come up with a solution that gets adopted that doesnt make anybody actually change anything but the world will appear to be all ip6 On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:54 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: Josh, I don't disagree with you, but didn't we have this discussion a couple weeks ago? I remember something about issues with DNS64 not quite working as expected. On 11/13/2016 10:49 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: *facepalm* I guess I have to spell it out. Run ipv6 internal with NAT64 and DNS64. Or DSLite, or just simply dualstack with NAT444 aka CGNAT. We will have need for some ipv4 for the foreseeable future. Nothing is stopping you from running a fully ipv6 internal network assuming you have the proper translation layers in place at either edge (customer edge or transit edge). On Nov 13, 2016 10:40 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: What do you think the 4 stands for in NAT64? You cannot access IPv4 resources with IPv4 addresses, even if you use IPv6 everywhere. Jared Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 5:59 PM From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? NAT64 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT64 On Nov 13, 2016 9:54 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> wrote: Nope, not if you are v6 and only v6. No way to get to bazillions of servers that are on v4 still and will be for many moons. You will have to have V4 involved somewhere forever. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Of course you can. There's many ways to go about it. On Nov 12, 2016 11:47 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote: Except that you literally cannot ‘move to IPv6’ and have happy clients yet. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 auction alternatives? Wow, didn't know that /24's were going for that high. I would move to IPv6 as fast as I can! On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: That's actually a pretty good price. On Nov 11, 2016 6:42 PM, "Dev" <[email protected]> wrote: Are there any other alternatives than the ipv4auctions.com[http://ipv4auctions.com] style websites, which seem like highway robbery at $3584 current bid for a /24? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
