Well... I think that explains my problem. I'll have to check, but I on the sites where I'm having problems, I'm powering airfibers with the same injectors, and I think I just set the polarity the same on all the ports to simplify things...
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < [email protected]> wrote: > The 450i will power on with any polarity. So you can put + on 4&5 and - > and 7&8 and it will still power on...However, for sync to be received, 4&5 > needs to be return, and 7&8 needs to be power. > > If you are powering on all 4 pairs, you still need to honor this > polarization on 4&5 and 7&8 for sync to be able to be received. You can > put either polarity on 1&2 and on 3&6. > > -forrest > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:32 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on >> 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power >> is not supported? That would be news to me. >> >> But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios >> in and sync works fine. >> >> On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >> >> Whoah..... >> >> You say 'switch polarity of the pins'. >> >> That's wrong. A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, >> just at 48VDC, not 24V. If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive >> sync. >> >> -forrest >> >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over power. >>> Here are the details of my setup: >>> >>> AP firmware: 14.2.1 >>> cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet >>> cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet >>> Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1 >>> Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is receiving >>> timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving sync over power from >>> this injector) >>> >>> I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync is >>> turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last week brand >>> new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on this AP and see if >>> I can get sync working that way. If I really feel like it I could set the >>> injector up for 24v power, switch polarity on pins and verify that a >>> regular 450 AP can recive sync from this injector. But I am guessing this >>> may be an issue related to 450i >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC running the >>>> four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966. It has a pretty old Rev G >>>> Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached to the ice bridge about 6" off of the >>>> wall, but has a decent view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of >>>> 12 sats. About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost sync >>>> since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just jinxed it knowing my >>>> luck. >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>>> >>>> If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving sync, and >>>> 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit connected to see it). >>>> >>>> Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a limited number >>>> of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox Junior's (don't get the GPS >>>> data) and the one PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is >>>> running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+. >>>> >>>> I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously you'd need a >>>> base unit connected. I've plugged radios in backwards on more than one >>>> occasion. Injector upside down for one reason or another, so the radios >>>> ended up 4 thru 1 instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. >>>> Port 4 is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports. That's >>>> the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync pulse on a port to run an >>>> AirFiber. But if multiple people have had the same problem, then my theory >>>> is bunk. >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> I had that same problem last week. Finally started working on its own. >>>> >>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync >>>> >>>> Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into the exact >>>> same problem the Original Poster had here. I have the Gigabit Power >>>> Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for receiving sync from another Sync >>>> Injector in the same enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is >>>> running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving any sync at >>>> all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync. Has been running for a >>>> couple hours now. Will keep checking back here. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them, is there a >>>>> guide for the 10/100 and gigabit powerinjector jumper settings per brand? >>>>> is it just the same as http://tickets.packetflux.com/ >>>>> downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf only with the pin order backward? >>>>> and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector, would that >>>>> effectively put the two inputs in parallel? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber. My guess is it would >>>>>> be ok. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off the sync on that >>>>>> port and the injector will remember it, so you don't have to put a base >>>>>> unit in the field with it, just for the programming. (You'd set the >>>>>> poweron column for the sync row for that port to '0'). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I just received my first powerinjector + sync today. If I want to >>>>>>> power some Airfibers with these do I need to turn the sync off for those >>>>>>> ports? I don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is it ok to provider sync >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> a port with an Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me like the >>>>>>> only way to turn off sync is buy the additional site monitor base thing >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> hookup to it and turn it off through the web interface? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our office tower fed from a GigE >>>>>>>> PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2. They received sync shortly >>>>>>>> after boot, DFS, etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these yet. I'm >>>>>>>> like two >>>>>>>> short at the moment. But we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power + >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> older APC's don't play nice anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've had a couple of them where I wasn't getting sync and couldn't >>>>>>>> figure out why... in one case (maybe both... I don't remember off >>>>>>>> hand), I >>>>>>>> was getting sync to an ePMP, but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were >>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>> plugged into the same sync injector... I didn't really need sync on the >>>>>>>> 900mhz at the time, so I just switched it to generate it's own timing, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I haven't gotten around to trying to figure it out yet, but now I'm >>>>>>>> wondering if it would eventually come up if I left it alone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth Mattinen <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/21/16 10:39, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had all the packet flux gear running for days, plugged in the >>>>>>>>>> 450i and >>>>>>>>>> started trying to figure out why it was not receiving sync. Half >>>>>>>>>> hour >>>>>>>>>> or more later it said it was OK, so the delay had to be Cambium, >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> Packetflux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Check if the packetflux says it has fix and 1PPS is active on the >>>>>>>>> binary tab and that the used pulse count is increasing on the analog >>>>>>>>> tab. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Seth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* >>>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>>>>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >>>>>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* >> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >> >> >> > > > -- > *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> > <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > >
