I'm confused. A 450i will receive sync with return on 4&5 and +48VDC on 7&8 only, i.e. standard Canopy polarity? 4-pair powering + sync over power is not supported? That would be news to me.

But yeah, for my 450i cluster, I put +48VDC on PowerA, plugged the radios in and sync works fine.

On 11/25/2016 12:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
Whoah.....

You say 'switch polarity of the pins'.

That's wrong. A 450i should be hooked up exactly the same as a 450, just at 48VDC, not 24V. If it isn't, it will power on, but won't receive sync.

-forrest

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Just logged into the AP tonight and still not receiving sync over
    power. Here are the details of my setup:

    AP firmware: 14.2.1
    cable lengh from Syncpipe to Sync Injector: 8 feet
    cable lengh from Powerinjector to AP: 15 feet
    Syncpipe Deluxe is Revision H or H1
    Powerinjector is daisy chained from a Syncinjector that is
    receiving timing pulse (Have a 3.65ghz 450AP that is receiving
    sync over power from this injector)

    I don't have any Site Monitor or Base Units to verify if the sync
    is turned on at the injector but I just received the injector last
    week brand new. I do have a Sync Box for Aux port I could throw on
    this AP and see if I can get sync working that way. If I really
    feel like it I could set the injector up for 24v power, switch
    polarity on pins and verify that a regular 450 AP can recive sync
    from this injector. But I am guessing this may be an issue related
    to 450i



    On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        BTW, the GigE PowerInjector+Sync that I have at the NOC
        running the four 450i's is the newest I have with s/n 118966.
        It has a pretty old Rev G Deluxe pipe on it, which is attached
        to the ice bridge about 6" off of the wall, but has a decent
        view of the west and south and is tracking 10 out of 12 sats.
        About 190 feet of cable to the radios. And they haven't lost
        sync since they've been up, about three weeks. And I just
        jinxed it knowing my luck.

        On 11/24/2016 5:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:
        If the orange LED is blinking, then the injector is receiving
        sync, and 1PPS Active should = 1 (if you have a base unit
        connected to see it).

        Kurt, what software is your 450i running? FWIW, I have a
        limited number of 450i APs up, but I have some on SyncBox
        Junior's (don't get the GPS data) and the one
        PowerInjector+Sync at the NOC. All of my 450 and 450i is
        running 14.1.2. Perhaps Cambium changed something in 14.2+.

        I would verify that the port has sync enabled. Obviously
        you'd need a base unit connected. I've plugged radios in
        backwards on more than one occasion. Injector upside down for
        one reason or another, so the radios ended up 4 thru 1
        instead of 1 thru 4 because I wasn't paying attention. Port 4
        is at the end closest to the SyncPipe/sync daisy chain ports.
        That's the most obvious issue if you turned off the sync
        pulse on a port to run an AirFiber. But if multiple people
        have had the same problem, then my theory is bunk.

        On 11/24/2016 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
        I had that same problem last week. Finally started working
        on its own.
        *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
        *Sent:* Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:14 PM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit power injector + sync
        Ok, I just put a new PMP450i on a tower and am running into
        the exact same problem the Original Poster had here. I have
        the Gigabit Power Injector plus Sync and it is blinking for
        receiving sync from another Sync Injector in the same
        enclosure via the included jumper cable and the AP is
        running in Autosync+ Freerun and it is not showing receiving
        any sync at all and it is decided to Generate its own Sync.
        Has been running for a couple hours now. Will keep checking
        back here.
        On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            all this talk of the new units i opened our box of them,
            is there a guide for the 10/100 and gigabit
            powerinjector jumper settings per brand?
            is it just the same as
            http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf
            <http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf>
            only with the pin order backward?
            and if a guy put a 3pin connector on the A/B selector,
            would that effectively put the two inputs in parallel?
            On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Forrest Christian
            (List Account) <[email protected]> wrote:

                Depends on the power circuitry on the airfiber.  My
                guess is it would be ok.
                If you have a base unit, you can actually turn off
                the sync on that port and the injector will remember
                it, so you don't have to put a base unit in the
                field with it, just for the programming. (You'd set
                the poweron column for the sync row for that port to
                '0').
                On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    I just received my first powerinjector + sync
                    today. If I want to power some Airfibers with
                    these do I need to turn the sync off for those
                    ports? I don't see a jumper to turn off sync, is
                    it ok to provider sync on a port with an
                    Airfiber? Does it hurt anything? It looks to me
                    like the only way to turn off sync is buy the
                    additional site monitor base thing to hookup to
                    it and turn it off through the web interface?
                    On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, George Skorup
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        I have four 5GHz 450i's running on our
                        office tower fed from a GigE
                        PowerInjector+Sync. They're running 14.1.2.
                        They received sync shortly after boot, DFS,
                        etc. BTW, no GigE-APC's in line on these
                        yet. I'm like two short at the moment. But
                        we know that 1000Base-T and sync over power
                        + the older APC's don't play nice anyway.

                        On 11/21/2016 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
                        I've had a couple of them where I wasn't
                        getting sync and couldn't figure out why...
                        in one case (maybe both... I don't remember
                        off hand), I was getting sync to an ePMP,
                        but not to a PMP450i 900mhz AP that were
                        both plugged into the same sync injector...
                        I didn't really need sync on the 900mhz at
                        the time, so I just switched it to generate
                        it's own timing, and I haven't gotten
                        around to trying to figure it out yet, but
                        now I'm wondering if it would eventually
                        come up if I left it alone.
                        On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Seth
                        Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:

                            On 11/21/16 10:39, [email protected] wrote:

                                I had all the packet flux gear
                                running for days, plugged in the
                                450i and
                                started trying to figure out why it
                                was not receiving sync.  Half hour
                                or more later it said it was OK, so
                                the delay had to be Cambium, not
                                Packetflux.



                            Check if the packetflux says it has fix
                            and 1PPS is active on the binary tab
                            and that the used pulse count is
                            increasing on the analog tab.

                            ~Seth




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