Problem is, botulism spores are literally everywhere, nobody is immune, and if 
you get it you spend months in an iron lung.  
Literally botoxes the muscles that you use to  breathe.  

I just learned that a chemical derived from horseradish (horseradish 
peroxidase) is used to detect botulism poisoning.  

Just suggesting that before you stop using vinegar, you find out if the spores 
will multiply in ground raw horseradish.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:23 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saturday Sinus cleanse

while we were making this we we eating venison jerky from bambi who had been 
walking around eating old corn just 24 hours prior, and radishes we sterilized 
with our pantlegs. I think that families like mine have a natural immune 
protection from alot of those nasty bugs because we are exposed to them 
constantly from the point we are riding around in our dads pants and 
occasionally showing up as a glimmer in his eye, through our uterine vacation, 
and all through our childhood. We fight over the cow blood left on the plate 
after steak, test hamburger raw (we arent savages, we put salt on it like 
civilized people). i think alot of these nasty bugs that go around only kill 
people who wear skinny jeans

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Gotta have a pH of 4.6 or lower to prevent botulism growth if you are not 
heat packing it.  The vinegar is doing that trick for you but olive oil will 
not.  
  Perhaps it has some natural anti botulism properties, but worth doing some 
research on.  

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:07 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saturday Sinus cleanse

  we put a couple tons of horse manure on it every year, I assume theres a good 
chance for alot of bacteria issues. I did however just found out its also 
considered an aphrodisiac 

  On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Any chance of  botulism?

    From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
    Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 9:52 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saturday Sinus cleanse

    that is a sound idea, that may preserve it!! this list!

    On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      you should also try putting a small batch of it in olive oil.... :)

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        From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:18:19 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saturday Sinus cleanse

        primarily a condiment, me and the kids eat it like a snack. Normally 
its ground with vinegar. Its a semi hard root, scrub it up, grind it to a pulp. 
We grind it every fall, but are still trying to find a way to preserve the 
kick, it loses it over time and when frozen, this year is the first year we 
packaged some dry with no vinegar, hoping it keeps the kick, also dropped way 
back on the vinegar.


        On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Jay Weekley 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          It's for sauces?

          That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

            I have a root for grating as needed, we packed a bunch of dry 
ground, most of it was straight vinegar blend, then a garlic blend, the sweet 
potato is actually habanero garlic blend, the greeinish is ghost pepper. and 
that jug is the runoff brine mix of it all, very hot, but will be the base for 
a buffalo sauce, it will melt faces, i probably wont eat those wings

            the habanero horseradish is out of sight. the vinegar tamed the 
heat but left the flavor, still spicy, but more of the flavor of the pepper 
embedded in horseradish, sooooo good

            On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I'm good at efficiently packing and eyeballing quantity because 
of
                previous work experience

                On Dec 3, 2016 1:41 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I’m reporting you to Homeland Security.

                    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
                    /sarcasm
                    *Sent:* Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:30 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Saturday Sinus cleanse

                    4 gallons dry ground horseradish. yum




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