Chuck, Explain why we would have to bury fiber for that customer when the current standard for ‘served’ for Internet is 10Mbps which is easily done with wireless, and “Advanced Broadband” is 25/3Mb. I still think there is a very valid argument that 10Mbps is more than sufficient for the services that the government should be guaranteeing (phone, telemedicine, education). 25/3 is more about entertainment than anything else and I don’t see where this is a taxpayer obligation. I want Broadway shows in my little town too - but I don’t expect the government to fund them.
The major carriers are moving away from landlines as fast as they can and are really looking to replace all last mile with wireless if they can make it work (and they think they can). I don’t think it will be long until getting traditional landline service in the city is no longer an option - why would we still be forcing this in rural areas? The other issue is the cash cow that funded USF for years (intrastate phone revenue) is rapidly diminishing and will finish it's spiral of death soon unless the contribution base is expanded to broadband. Mark Mark Radabaugh WISPA FCC Committee Chair [email protected] 419-261-5996 > On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Depends on what you call rural. I have served areas with perhaps 1 house > every 5 miles. You are not going to find a wisp willing to build out in > areas like that. I plowed 20 miles of fiber for one single house. > > From: That One Guy /sarcasm <> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:34 AM > To: [email protected] <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these > > If WISPA does their job well, small business can more effectively service the > rural markets than the telcos, for alot less money > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie > <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> You think? It seems like the Republicans are in the pocket of big telco, so >> I wouldn't hold my breath. >> >> On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, That One Guy /sarcasm >> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>> i think that bank account may be closed very soon >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>> Lipstick on a pig. The copper in still rotting in the ground and the >>>> only approved Centurylink fix appears to be the upgrade from black to >>>> orange trash bags. Except when those are out of stock. >>>> >>>> Centurylink will be back to the FCC shortly crying about how the need more >>>> support money to fix the plant. The only question is if they do it this >>>> year or next. >>>> >>>> Mark Radabaugh >>>> WISPA FCC Committee Chair >>>> [email protected] <> >>>> 419-261-5996 <tel:(419)%20261-5996> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> They couldn't before either, but they didn't give a shit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected] <>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:49:50 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these >>>>> >>>>> These should all be fiber fed. Any new DSLAM's with CAF funding are very >>>>> likely fiber fed. They just can't support the bandwidth requirements with >>>>> only bonded T1's anymore. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] <>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> One would suspect a calix e7-2 or e7-20 (2Tbps backplane, 100Gbps link >>>>>> to each line card). I don't think you can even feed those by anything >>>>>> short of at least a gig ethernet circuit. I never really tried on any of >>>>>> the E7-2s I've used in the past though :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2017 11:29 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" >>>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>>>> Out of curiosity, do you know how are they feeding these shelves? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that in at least one case a couple of years ago, Qwest was >>>>>>> feeding an entire neighborhood on I think 4 T1's. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected] >>>>>>> <>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Exactly. Calix VDSL2 Remote DSLAM. These are the result of CAF funding >>>>>>>> from Govt. to provide minimum 10/1 Mbps speeds to the census blocks >>>>>>>> they took funding for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If Centurylink had crappy or no DSL in these areas before, expect them >>>>>>>> to be able to offer somewhat functional to excellent DSL speeds to >>>>>>>> customers in range of these remote DSLAMs. For really close customers, >>>>>>>> they may see up to 40/1 Mbps speeds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Carl Peterson >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> As someone already said, its clearly and E3. >>>>>>>>> https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html >>>>>>>>> <https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Skorup >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Regen would be my guess. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/31/2017 2:45 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> it got fiber ran into it for remote dslam to provide customers >>>>>>>>>>> vdsl2 along that route. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected] <>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 01/31/17 03:28 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Calix. I'd guess G.Fast >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Josh Corson >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what these are? They are popping up on fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>> rural >>>>>>>>>>>>> areas of our coverage areas and on the state highways. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mime-attachment.txt> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <image1.JPG> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>>>>>> PORT NETWORKS >>>>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>>>>>> (410) 637-3707 <tel:%28410%29%20637-3707> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Darin Steffl >>>>>>>> Minnesota WiFi >>>>>>>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> >>>>>>>> 507-634-WiFi >>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>>>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 <> | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>>>>>> [email protected] <> | http://www.packetflux.com >>>>>>> <http://www.packetflux.com/> >>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Darin Steffl >>>>> Minnesota WiFi >>>>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> >>>>> 507-634-WiFi >>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as >>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
