If WISPA does their job well, small business can more effectively service
the rural markets than the telcos, for alot less money

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie <
[email protected]> wrote:

> You think? It seems like the Republicans are in the pocket of big telco,
> so I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> i think that bank account may be closed very soon
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lipstick on a pig.   The copper in still rotting in the ground and the
>>> only approved Centurylink fix appears to be the upgrade from black to
>>> orange trash bags.   Except when those are out of stock.
>>>
>>> Centurylink will be back to the FCC shortly crying about how the need
>>> more support money to fix the plant.  The only question is if they do it
>>> this year or next.
>>>
>>> Mark Radabaugh
>>> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
>>> [email protected]
>>> 419-261-5996 <(419)%20261-5996>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> They couldn't before either, but they didn't give a shit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
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>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:49:50 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
>>>
>>> These should all be fiber fed. Any new DSLAM's with CAF funding are very
>>> likely fiber fed. They just can't support the bandwidth requirements with
>>> only bonded T1's anymore.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One would suspect a calix e7-2 or e7-20 (2Tbps backplane, 100Gbps link
>>>> to each line card). I don't think you can even feed those by anything short
>>>> of at least a gig ethernet circuit. I never really tried on any of the
>>>> E7-2s I've used in the past though :)
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2017 11:29 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Out of curiosity, do  you know how are they feeding these shelves?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that in at least one case a couple of years ago, Qwest was
>>>>> feeding an entire neighborhood on I think 4 T1's.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. Calix VDSL2 Remote DSLAM. These are the result of CAF
>>>>>> funding from Govt. to provide minimum 10/1 Mbps speeds to the census 
>>>>>> blocks
>>>>>> they took funding for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Centurylink had crappy or no DSL in these areas before, expect
>>>>>> them to be able to offer somewhat functional to excellent DSL speeds to
>>>>>> customers in range of these remote DSLAMs. For really close customers, 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> may see up to 40/1 Mbps speeds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Carl Peterson <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As someone already said, its clearly and E3.
>>>>>>> https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Skorup <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regen would be my guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/31/2017 2:45 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it got fiber ran into it for remote dslam to provide customers
>>>>>>>>> vdsl2 along that route.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 01/31/17 03:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Calix.  I'd guess G.Fast
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Josh Corson <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what these are? They are popping up on fairly
>>>>>>>>>>> rural
>>>>>>>>>>> areas of our coverage areas and on the state highways.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> <mime-attachment.txt>
>>>>>>>>>>> <image1.JPG>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carl Peterson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>>>> www.mnwifi.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>>>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
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>>>
>>
>>
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>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
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