I have 10 kW so it would be an extra $70... that sucks.  
Yeah, I would be buying batts and inverters too.  

From: Harold Bledsoe 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative" fee for having net 
metering.  Effective Jan 1, they charge an additional $7/kw of installed 
capacity to offset the lower power usage. 

I think this new charge literally effects only 1 of their customers.  I believe 
their fear is that things like Tesla powerwall will take off and they won't be 
able to afford their current lifestyle.  ;-)

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I pay 8.50/month.  Flat rate.  
  So you are getting a demand charge added?

  From: Harold Bledsoe 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
  Agreed!

  I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly they 
will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batteries. I'll let you 
guys know in 10-15 years.

  My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much power so the 
power company added a net meter fee of $7/kw/mo to make up the difference.

  Alrighty then, guess I'll take half my house off grid. :-)

  Hal

  On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

    Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable for cyclic 
solar/wind power applications. If the manufacturer hasn't clearly specified Ah 
capacity in a table at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for repeated 
discharge. 


    On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> wrote:

      Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically are not true deep 
cycle batteries. At 50% depth of discharge, you can expect around 300 cycles 
(or 1 year if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do about 3x that 
number.
      On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:

        Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81

        
http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-1444430136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928



        On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> 
wrote:
          Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is 
selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:


          
http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf


          Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. 
But they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep 
cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing that 
beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.


          On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            I can across an interesting tip / option -

            Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded 
lead acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart 
batteries in PV applications.

            
http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html

            I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family 
eats their Wheaties on moving day. :-)

            Hal
            On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for 
off grid PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for 
something like the Trojan T31 or similar. 


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            Harold Bledsoe



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