If you have the recombiner caps on the cells they are safe to vent inside your 
house.  Still best to build a sealed box for them with vents to the outside or 
a hydrogen sensor and fan.

Our local building codes actually specify all of this stuff depending on the 
type of battery and size.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:37 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

Those are flooded batteries not AGM, right?  Kind of an apples-to-oranges 
comparison.  If they are in a somewhat temperature controlled environment, and 
not in your basement venting gasses into your house, flooded might be a valid 
choice and would typically be around half the price of AGM.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

 

Sure.  Supposedly the plates are a good bit thicker than even high-end deep 
cycle batteries so they can be cycled daily at the same DOD 3-5 times more than 
what a GC2 would be able to do.

 

Here's an article that has more info:

 

https://www.sustainablepreparedness.com/index.php/blog/the-best-kept-secret-in-renewable-energy

 

-Hal

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  Define “last”.

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
  Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 6:38 PM


  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

   

  Agreed!

   

  I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly they 
will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batteries. I'll let you 
guys know in 10-15 years.

   

  My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much power so the 
power company added a net meter fee of $7/kw/mo to make up the difference.

   

  Alrighty then, guess I'll take half my house off grid. :-)

   

  Hal

   

  On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

    Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable for cyclic 
solar/wind power applications. If the manufacturer hasn't clearly specified Ah 
capacity in a table at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for repeated 
discharge.

     

     

    On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> wrote:

      Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically are not true deep 
cycle batteries. At 50% depth of discharge, you can expect around 300 cycles 
(or 1 year if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do about 3x that 
number.

      On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:

        Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81

        
http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-1444430136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928

        On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is 
selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:

          
http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf

           

          Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. 
But they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep 
cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing that 
beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.

           

           

          On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            I can across an interesting tip / option -

             

            Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded 
lead acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart 
batteries in PV applications.

             

            
http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html

             

            I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family 
eats their Wheaties on moving day. :-)

             

            Hal

            On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for 
off grid PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for 
something like the Trojan T31 or similar.

               

               

            -- 

            Harold Bledsoe

           


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