What really sucks about this deal is that they claim that they do this
so rich people who can afford solar are still contributing to the cost
of maintaining the grid instead of transferring that burden to poor
people. Cry me a fkn river... They kind of neglect that they are
making up more than 20% line loss from solar plants distributing source
power closer to the loads. This is a YUGE savings off losses that
they don't get compensated for and goes straight into their pockets.
Fuel savings, build savings, wear and tear savings... They are a bunch
of thieves looking in our pockets for their next golden parachute..
On 02/07/2017 08:55 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
Apologies to Eric for hijacking his thread...
It does suck and the logic is flawed. Do they charge more for folks
that switched to LED bulbs? No. Do they charge more for folks that
have smaller houses, better insulation, or choose not to run the AC
sometimes? No.
If I had more free time I'd stand up for the principle but at the
moment, islanding will just have to do. :-) I suppose I could try to
summon the reddit but I do still need electricity for now.
-Hal
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have 10 kW so it would be an extra $70... that sucks.
Yeah, I would be buying batts and inverters too.
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative" fee for
having net metering. Effective Jan 1, they charge an additional
$7/kw of installed capacity to offset the lower power usage.
I think this new charge literally effects only 1 of their
customers. I believe their fear is that things like Tesla powerwall
will take off and they won't be able to afford their current
lifestyle. ;-)
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
I pay 8.50/month. Flat rate.
So you are getting a demand charge added?
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Agreed!
I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries.
Supposedly they will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle
golf cart batteries. I'll let you guys know in 10-15 years.
My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much
power so the power company added a net meter fee of $7/kw/mo to
make up the difference.
Alrighty then, guess I'll take half my house off grid. :-)
Hal
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM Eric Kuhnke
<[email protected]> wrote:
Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable
for cyclic solar/wind power applications. If the
manufacturer hasn't clearly specified Ah capacity in a table
at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for repeated
discharge.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe
<[email protected]> wrote:
Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically
are not true deep cycle batteries. At 50% depth of
discharge, you can expect around 300 cycles (or 1 year
if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do
about 3x that number.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John
<[email protected]> wrote:
Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81
http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-1444430136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928
On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke
<[email protected]> wrote:
Found this, sunelec.com <http://sunelec.com>
(big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a
piece plus pallet shipping:
http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf
Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have
a battery factory. But they are a fairly large
company so they are relabeling somebody else's
deep cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms
of $/Wh stored the only thing that beats it is
the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe
<[email protected]> wrote:
I can across an interesting tip / option -
Have you considered going with forklift
batteries? They are flooded lead acid
however I'm reading that they can last 3x
longer than golf cart batteries in PV
applications.
http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html
I guess the weight is a downside. Just make
sure the whole family eats their Wheaties on
moving day. :-)
Hal
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke
<[email protected]> wrote:
Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top
terminal batteries for off grid PV.
Wondering if anyone has recently got a
particularly good deal for something
like the Trojan T31 or similar.
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Harold Bledsoe
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