I will not argue with that.... The only point I want to make is .. Contrary to popular belief... The Phone Line in the Elevator is not a Fire code requirement....(That is the fire alarm button is for).
The elevator phone line is typically, fixed dial to the Elevator Management Company Call Center.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:54:40 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > There are national fire codes that most jurisdictions adopt. > Same as the NEC etc. > Irrespective of actual ordinances, the alarm companies are the ones setting > the > standards if no one else is. I have been on both sides of this arguments when > doing installs. If I am the regulated ILEC I raise holy hell if they don’t > want > my line. If I am the unregulated wisp or FTTH provider I raise holy hell in > defying them to prove that my ATA or ONT is not good enough and that their > pots > comes from the equivalent technology out in that box along the highway. > I am flexible. > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > Chuck, > I have to disagree with you on part of your statement.... > Local ordinances vary from region to region.... > Fire Alarms ....... are very particular, and require TWO POTS phone lines (at > least in our region)... nothing else is acceptable > Elevators ... no such requirement... the Emergency phone is typically auto > call > to the Maint Company.. most places do not have any specified requirements > other > than ... it needs a phone line..... (it is not a free dial phone, you cannot > call 911 on it for example... ) > I cannot speak for bank vaults :) > Regards. > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:46:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >> Fire codes require them for elevators and bank vaults and most alarm >> companies >> want them too. Especially for the fire alarm panel. >> Does not require power, it is arguably the most reliable phone line you can >> get, >> especially if it comes directly from the central office. But even if coming >> from a DLC it will still be up 8 hours after the power goes out. I understand >> why code requires it, and I somewhat agree. VOIP, ATA, WISP even FTTH ONT >> circuits will not be as reliable. >> From: Adam Moffett >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >> Yes, check local ordinances. >> Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it >> relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of >> hours. >> I would argue that a POTS line *is* the best way. Yes an ATA and a UPS meet >> the >> letter of the law, but who is checking the battery on the UPS? Who reboots >> the >> ATA if it's locked up? etc. The POTS line has no components outside of the >> CO, >> and the CO is maintained by the LEC. >> Not that I don't want you to sell another VoIP line, but do *you* want to be >> the >> one getting in trouble if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for >> help? >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >>> Need to check with your local ordinances... >>> In many places, folks are under a mis-impression that a hard line is >>> required... >>> (they confuse it with a dedicated line) >>> We have clients that have voip phone line for the elevator. (using an ATA). >>> Regards. >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> From: "Dave" < [email protected] > >>>> To: "Animal Farm" < [email protected] > >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:27:28 AM >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >>>> Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with elevators that >>>> HAVE TO >>>> HAVE a quote "Hardline". >>>> I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think are about >>>> gone. >>>> A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT for their >>>> elevator. They paid out the waazoo to get one just >>>> to satisfy safety requirements on the elevator... wTF. >>>> A reliable internet service would satisfy this I am sure with certain >>>> caveats in >>>> place IE UPS Backup when power fails for demarc in the building. >>>> --
