Chuck, I have to disagree with you on part of your statement....
Local ordinances vary from region to region.... Fire Alarms ....... are very particular, and require TWO POTS phone lines (at least in our region)... nothing else is acceptable Elevators ... no such requirement... the Emergency phone is typically auto call to the Maint Company.. most places do not have any specified requirements other than ... it needs a phone line..... (it is not a free dial phone, you cannot call 911 on it for example... ) I cannot speak for bank vaults :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:46:40 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > Fire codes require them for elevators and bank vaults and most alarm companies > want them too. Especially for the fire alarm panel. > Does not require power, it is arguably the most reliable phone line you can > get, > especially if it comes directly from the central office. But even if coming > from a DLC it will still be up 8 hours after the power goes out. I understand > why code requires it, and I somewhat agree. VOIP, ATA, WISP even FTTH ONT > circuits will not be as reliable. > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines > Yes, check local ordinances. > Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it > relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of > hours. > I would argue that a POTS line *is* the best way. Yes an ATA and a UPS meet > the > letter of the law, but who is checking the battery on the UPS? Who reboots the > ATA if it's locked up? etc. The POTS line has no components outside of the CO, > and the CO is maintained by the LEC. > Not that I don't want you to sell another VoIP line, but do *you* want to be > the > one getting in trouble if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for > help? > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >> Need to check with your local ordinances... >> In many places, folks are under a mis-impression that a hard line is >> required... >> (they confuse it with a dedicated line) >> We have clients that have voip phone line for the elevator. (using an ATA). >> Regards. >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> From: "Dave" < dmilho...@wletc.com > >>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:27:28 AM >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines >>> Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with elevators that HAVE >>> TO >>> HAVE a quote "Hardline". >>> I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think are about >>> gone. >>> A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT for their >>> elevator. They paid out the waazoo to get one just >>> to satisfy safety requirements on the elevator... wTF. >>> A reliable internet service would satisfy this I am sure with certain >>> caveats in >>> place IE UPS Backup when power fails for demarc in the building. >>> --
