Hi,

I own 3 buildings with elevators. We have landlines for each of them... cost us $20/month each (measured use lines). If your client is that tight on money to risk a lawsuit and possibly someone getting seriously injured and not being able to contact EMS, I guess that's their choice.

Travis

On 2/23/2017 10:05 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
I had a customer here in Utah that didn't have their phone line installed in time for their inspection. 30 min before the inspector got there we bought a magicJack and a desktop UPS for it (internet router and connected switch already had a UPS large enough to last 72 hours). When the inspector saw it he said that was a great setup. The companies owner decided to cancel his order for the other phone line. It was $35/yr vs $79/mo. It's been a year and haven't had any issues. They test it monthly.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Fire codes require them for elevators and bank vaults and most alarm companies want them too. Especially for the fire alarm panel. Does not require power, it is arguably the most reliable phone line you can get, especially if it comes directly from the central office. But even if coming from a DLC it will still be up 8 hours after the power goes out. I understand why code requires it, and I somewhat agree. VOIP, ATA, WISP even FTTH ONT circuits will not be as reliable.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:51 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Yes, check local ordinances.
Here it's not specifically an analog POTS line, but the line and anything it relies on (PBX, etc) has to operate without external power for some number of hours. I would argue that a POTS line *is* the best way. Yes an ATA and a UPS meet the letter of the law, but who is checking the battery on the UPS? Who reboots the ATA if it's locked up? etc. The POTS line has no components outside of the CO, and the CO is maintained by the LEC. Not that I don't want you to sell another VoIP line, but do *you* want to be the one getting in trouble if someone is stuck in the elevator and can't call for help?
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 2/23/2017 9:40:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevator phone lines
Need to check with your local ordinances...
In many places, folks are under a mis-impression that a hard line is required... (they confuse it with a dedicated line) We have clients that have voip phone line for the elevator. (using an ATA).
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
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    *From: *"Dave" <[email protected]>
    *To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:27:28 AM
    *Subject: *[AFMUG] Elevator phone lines

    Someone needs to reach out to the yahoos concerned with
    elevators that HAVE TO HAVE a quote "Hardline".
    I think we are in the 21st century and hard-lines I would think
    are about gone.
    A company in town here had an issue getting a hardline from ATT
    for their elevator. They paid out the waazoo to get one just
    to satisfy safety requirements on the elevator... wTF.
    A reliable internet service would satisfy this I am sure with
    certain caveats in place IE UPS Backup when power fails for
    demarc in the building.


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