This list is a useful tool, and I definitely appreciate the time and
expense that everyone has put forward to keep it going.  That being said, I
don't think it is worth that amount at all whatsoever.  That just seems
like a crazy amount of money for what basically amounts to a redundant
list.  Now that the republicans on the list are requesting it as a 'safe
space' free from politics, it is hard to see where there is still a need
that justifies that expense.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> 3 years ago, when my (still current but estranged) business partners gave
> me 30 days to vacate the server farm, Paul really saved the day.  I think
> he was perfecting his application of ASW for other things at the time so it
> was perhaps a bit experimental at the time.  I have always really
> appreciated what he did for us.
>
> I don’t think it would hurt his feelings if someone else wanted to host
> it.  There is the list serv and a web site (that has not really been kept
> up to date).  I have offered to cover the cost of the AWS.
>
> A am OK with anything.
>
> *From:* Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>
> $250/mo to host a single mailing list is well.. insane.  I certainly
> appreciate Paul hosting the site (and paying these crazy monthly charges),
> but I can't help it to question if AWS makes sense for this specific
> application.
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> If we can get 14 people to donate $150 each we're set for the year...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> $ 970 in contributions have come in so far on supporting AFMUG and are
>>> much appreciated.
>>>
>>> I checked with Amazon on the support consideration (currently paying $
>>> 100 for that).  Unfortunately, to have support available on the API (which
>>> is needed on the mailing part) , we have to keep the $ 100 monthly support
>>> plan.  There is no pay per incident for the API level plan, and if you are
>>> haven't paid for the plan previously when there is an incident, you can't
>>> buy it and then cancel it etc..
>>>
>>> The monthly recurring AWS costs since October 2014, has averaged $
>>> 249.34.   So, figure an annual cost of $ 2992 in AWS fees.   Probably, a
>>> little expensive but I am glad to continue it.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:56 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>>
>>> And would have saved a lot of trees in the process.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:00 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>>
>>> Sad, a death that could have been prevented by a decent broadband
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rory Conaway
>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 6:50 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>>
>>> I don't know, Friday Funnies would be missed.  Then there are important
>>> news things that covers dangers we should all be aware of like the Japanese
>>> guy who died when 6 tons of his umm, private magazine collection fell on
>>> him.
>>> These are dangers we should all be aware of when entering houses for
>>> installations.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six
>>> -ton-pile-porn-magazines.html
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wright
>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:20 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>>
>>> Or if one feels so compelled to post something politically charged, it
>>> must be allegorical and use nomenclature relevant to our industry.
>>>
>>> Ex: If Mimosa truly wanted to convince Ubiquiti supporters that they're
>>> being heard, they should prioritize TCP ACK.
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:55 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>>
>>> Sounds good!
>>>
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:49 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > That and shunning political junk.  The more I think about it the more
>>> > I am liking this list with everything but politics.  We all have
>>> > wasted too much of our time on that.  We can still have all the other
>>> fun stuff.
>>> > Food, movies, jokes, M-TOW use of the day photos...
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
>>> > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:03 PM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>> >
>>> > It may actually be good for some peoples blood pressure.
>>> >
>>> > Mathew Howard wrote:
>>> >> Agreed. It's not going to kill any of us if the list is down for a
>>> >> few hours.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>    Reduce it.  In the rare event there are issues, it's not a
>>> >>    critical service.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    Josh Luthman
>>> >>    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> >>    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> >>    1100 Wayne St
>>> >>    Suite 1337
>>> >>    Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>
>>> >>    On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]
>>> >>    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>        We received $ 570 in donations so far.  Again, thank you.
>>> >>
>>> >>        Its $ 150 a month (round numbers) plus the $ 99 support plan,
>>> >>        which I might drop and go to pay per incident but its low
>>> >>        priority support only for that.
>>> >>
>>> >>        Paul
>>> >>
>>> >>        *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>> >>        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>>> >>        *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 11:31 AM
>>> >>        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >>        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>> >>
>>> >>        Paul, did you get enough to cover the year or do you need more?
>>> >>
>>> >>        Rory
>>> >>
>>> >>        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul
>>> McCall
>>> >>        *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 9:02 AM
>>> >>        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >>        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Donations
>>> >>
>>> >>        For those of you that sent a donation via Paypal to help
>>> >>        offset a portion of the Amazon hosting costs, thank you for
>>> >>        the kind gesture.
>>> >>
>>> >>        Paul
>>> >>
>>> >>        Paul McCall, President
>>> >>
>>> >>        PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>> >>
>>> >>        658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> >>
>>> >>        Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> >>
>>> >>        772-564-6800 <tel:%28772%29%20564-6800>
>>> >>
>>> >>        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >>
>>> >>        www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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