That mailmanhost looks pretty good.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 3:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
There is also Yahoo Groups and Google Groups, which are both free (ad
supported). Our neighborhood group has been using Yahoo Groups for almost 15
years without incident.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/6/2017 1:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
List hosting:
https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/ Looks like $3 per month. Not sure
about own domain name.
http://www.mailmanlists.net/pricing ... Pro list, $4/month. (your own
domain).
http://www.mailmanhost.com/ $3/month. Again, not sure about domain name.
More listed here:
https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
Yeah, that was kind of the thing Josh. Someone to deal with things that
came up. Most of us got OUT of the mail server business and let the big boys
deal with it. For use, AWS was a sure thing on the fact that their very tight
ship ensures that things are deliverable without drama.
However, If someone already has a bunch of Mailman experience and can deal
with the receiving mail server issues AND not get blacklisted, then it’s not “a
thing”. If they don’t, well…. then it most definitely IS a thing J
Our original concept that we needed AWS for was quite simple. The email
portion is the only part that got complicated. The Mailman instance has a fair
amount of customization on its current instance to make it intertwine properly
with AWS, so if someone wants to take that one, they also need to consider that
they will mostly be starting from scratch on Mailman configuration, etc.
I have to say though, there is something to be said for the fact that ….
now, it just runs and runs. I wouldn’t take a Cambium solution and downgrade
it to UBNT just because it is “price disruptive”.
We are glad to continue to admin it. Contributions towards the AWS of
course are nice.
But, its Chuck’s list and his decision.
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Right but who's going to manage the box and fix all the list issues?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:
Many folks are leaving the cloud due to costs. We, like a lot of others
on this list, can help. I have space in a tierIV data center. We can spin up
a VM or do a dedicated box if someone wants to send one. We have been buying
Dell R710s on eBay for $200 and $200 in new drives and you are set. We also
have some R900s on the way we could spin up a couple of redundant VMs.
Just throwing that out there.
Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net
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On Mar 6, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
No, we just transferred all the politics over to Mikes FB page... ;-)
From: Jeremy
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
This list is a useful tool, and I definitely appreciate the time and
expense that everyone has put forward to keep it going. That being said, I
don't think it is worth that amount at all whatsoever. That just seems like a
crazy amount of money for what basically amounts to a redundant list. Now that
the republicans on the list are requesting it as a 'safe space' free from
politics, it is hard to see where there is still a need that justifies that
expense.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
3 years ago, when my (still current but estranged) business partners
gave me 30 days to vacate the server farm, Paul really saved the day. I think
he was perfecting his application of ASW for other things at the time so it was
perhaps a bit experimental at the time. I have always really appreciated what
he did for us.
I don’t think it would hurt his feelings if someone else wanted to
host it. There is the list serv and a web site (that has not really been kept
up to date). I have offered to cover the cost of the AWS.
A am OK with anything.
From: Josh Baird
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
$250/mo to host a single mailing list is well.. insane. I certainly
appreciate Paul hosting the site (and paying these crazy monthly charges), but
I can't help it to question if AWS makes sense for this specific application.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If we can get 14 people to donate $150 each we're set for the
year...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net>
wrote:
Guys,
$ 970 in contributions have come in so far on supporting AFMUG
and are much appreciated.
I checked with Amazon on the support consideration (currently
paying $ 100 for that). Unfortunately, to have support available on the API
(which is needed on the mailing part) , we have to keep the $ 100 monthly
support plan. There is no pay per incident for the API level plan, and if you
are haven't paid for the plan previously when there is an incident, you can't
buy it and then cancel it etc..
The monthly recurring AWS costs since October 2014, has averaged
$ 249.34. So, figure an annual cost of $ 2992 in AWS fees. Probably, a
little expensive but I am glad to continue it.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
And would have saved a lot of trees in the process.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Sad, a death that could have been prevented by a decent broadband
connection.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 6:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
I don't know, Friday Funnies would be missed. Then there are
important news things that covers dangers we should all be aware of like the
Japanese guy who died when 6 tons of his umm, private magazine collection fell
on him.
These are dangers we should all be aware of when entering houses
for installations.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six-ton-pile-porn-magazines.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Or if one feels so compelled to post something politically
charged, it must be allegorical and use nomenclature relevant to our industry.
Ex: If Mimosa truly wanted to convince Ubiquiti supporters that
they're being heard, they should prioritize TCP ACK.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Sounds good!
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:49 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
>
> That and shunning political junk. The more I think about it
the more
> I am liking this list with everything but politics. We all have
> wasted too much of our time on that. We can still have all the
other fun stuff.
> Food, movies, jokes, M-TOW use of the day photos...
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:03 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>
> It may actually be good for some peoples blood pressure.
>
> Mathew Howard wrote:
>> Agreed. It's not going to kill any of us if the list is down
for a
>> few hours.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Reduce it. In the rare event there are issues, it's not a
>> critical service.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul McCall
<pa...@pdmnet.net
>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> We received $ 570 in donations so far. Again, thank
you.
>>
>> Its $ 150 a month (round numbers) plus the $ 99 support
plan,
>> which I might drop and go to pay per incident but its
low
>> priority support only for that.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Rory
Conaway
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 11:31 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>
>> Paul, did you get enough to cover the year or do you
need more?
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 9:02 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Donations
>>
>> For those of you that sent a donation via Paypal to help
>> offset a portion of the Amazon hosting costs, thank you
for
>> the kind gesture.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
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