List hosting:
https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/ Looks like $3 per month. Not
sure about own domain name.
http://www.mailmanlists.net/pricing ... Pro list, $4/month. (your
own domain).
http://www.mailmanhost.com/ $3/month. Again, not sure about domain
name.
More listed here:
https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
Yeah, that was kind of the thing Josh. Someone to deal with
things that came up. Most of us got OUT of the mail server
business and let the big boys deal with it. For use, AWS was a
sure thing on the fact that their very tight ship ensures that
things are deliverable without drama.
However, If someone already has a bunch of Mailman experience
and can deal with the receiving mail server issues AND not get
blacklisted, then it’s not “a thing”. If they don’t, well….
then it most definitely IS a thing J
Our original concept that we needed AWS for was quite simple.
The email portion is the only part that got complicated. The
Mailman instance has a fair amount of customization on its
current instance to make it intertwine properly with AWS, so if
someone wants to take that one, they also need to consider that
they will mostly be starting from scratch on Mailman
configuration, etc.
I have to say though, there is something to be said for the fact
that …. now, it just runs and runs. I wouldn’t take a Cambium
solution and downgrade it to UBNT just because it is “price
disruptive”.
We are glad to continue to admin it. Contributions towards the
AWS of course are nice.
But, its Chuck’s list and his decision.
Paul
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 1:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Right but who's going to manage the box and fix all the list issues?
Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net>
wrote:
Many folks are leaving the cloud due to costs. We, like a
lot of others on this list, can help. I have space in a
tierIV data center. We can spin up a VM or do a dedicated
box if someone wants to send one. We have been buying Dell
R710s on eBay for $200 and $200 in new drives and you are
set. We also have some R900s on the way we could spin up a
couple of redundant VMs.
Just throwing that out there.
Justin Wilson
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On Mar 6, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
No, we just transferred all the politics over to Mikes
FB page... ;-)
*From:*Jeremy
*Sent:*Monday, March 06, 2017 9:56 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Donations
This list is a useful tool, and I definitely appreciate
the time and expense that everyone has put forward to
keep it going. That being said, I don't think it is
worth that amount at all whatsoever. That just seems
like a crazy amount of money for what basically amounts
to a redundant list. Now that the republicans on the
list are requesting it as a 'safe space' free from
politics, it is hard to see where there is still a need
that justifies that expense.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
3 years ago, when my (still current but estranged)
business partners gave me 30 days to vacate the
server farm, Paul really saved the day. I think he
was perfecting his application of ASW for other
things at the time so it was perhaps a bit
experimental at the time. I have always really
appreciated what he did for us.
I don’t think it would hurt his feelings if someone
else wanted to host it. There is the list serv and
a web site (that has not really been kept up to
date). I have offered to cover the cost of the AWS.
A am OK with anything.
*From:*Josh Baird
*Sent:*Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Donations
$250/mo to host a single mailing list is well..
insane. I certainly appreciate Paul hosting the
site (and paying these crazy monthly charges), but I
can't help it to question if AWS makes sense for
this specific application.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
If we can get 14 people to donate $150 each
we're set for the year...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Paul McCall
<pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
Guys,
$ 970 in contributions have come in so far
on supporting AFMUG and are much appreciated.
I checked with Amazon on the support
consideration (currently paying $ 100 for
that). Unfortunately, to have support
available on the API (which is needed on the
mailing part) , we have to keep the $ 100
monthly support plan. There is no pay per
incident for the API level plan, and if you
are haven't paid for the plan previously
when there is an incident, you can't buy it
and then cancel it etc..
The monthly recurring AWS costs since
October 2014, has averaged $ 249.34. So,
figure an annual cost of $ 2992 in AWS fees.
Probably, a little expensive but I am glad
to continue it.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
And would have saved a lot of trees in the
process.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Sad, a death that could have been prevented
by a decent broadband connection.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 6:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
I don't know, Friday Funnies would be
missed. Then there are important news
things that covers dangers we should all be
aware of like the Japanese guy who died when
6 tons of his umm, private magazine
collection fell on him.
These are dangers we should all be aware of
when entering houses for installations.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six-ton-pile-porn-magazines.html
<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six-ton-pile-porn-magazines.html>
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Or if one feels so compelled to post
something politically charged, it must be
allegorical and use nomenclature relevant to
our industry.
Ex: If Mimosa truly wanted to convince
Ubiquiti supporters that they're being
heard, they should prioritize TCP ACK.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Sounds good!
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:49 PM,
<ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> That and shunning political junk. The
more I think about it the more
> I am liking this list with everything but
politics. We all have
> wasted too much of our time on that. We
can still have all the other fun stuff.
> Food, movies, jokes, M-TOW use of the day
photos...
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:03 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>
> It may actually be good for some peoples
blood pressure.
>
> Mathew Howard wrote:
>> Agreed. It's not going to kill any of us
if the list is down for a
>> few hours.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Reduce it. In the rare event there are
issues, it's not a
>> critical service.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
<tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
<tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul
McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net
>><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> We received $ 570 in donations so far.
Again, thank you.
>>
>> Its $ 150 a month (round numbers) plus the $
99 support plan,
>> which I might drop and go to pay per incident
but its low
>> priority support only for that.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 11:31 AM
>> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations
>>
>> Paul, did you get enough to cover the year or
do you need more?
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of
*Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 9:02 AM
>> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Donations
>>
>> For those of you that sent a donation via
Paypal to help
>> offset a portion of the Amazon hosting costs,
thank you for
>> the kind gesture.
>>
>> Paul
>>
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