Google hosted has been problem free for us. What's your reasoning? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm out if it moves to Yahoo or Google services. The same reason I don't use > their email, hosting or phone services. > > Travis > > >> On 3/6/2017 3:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> There is also Yahoo Groups and Google Groups, which are both free (ad >> supported). Our neighborhood group has been using Yahoo Groups for almost 15 >> years without incident. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> On 3/6/2017 1:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >>> List hosting: >>> >>> https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/ Looks like $3 per month. Not sure >>> about own domain name. >>> >>> http://www.mailmanlists.net/pricing ... Pro list, $4/month. (your own >>> domain). >>> >>> http://www.mailmanhost.com/ $3/month. Again, not sure about domain name. >>> >>> >>> More listed here: >>> >>> https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Yeah, that was kind of the thing Josh. Someone to deal with things that >>>> came up. Most of us got OUT of the mail server business and let the big >>>> boys deal with it. For use, AWS was a sure thing on the fact that their >>>> very tight ship ensures that things are deliverable without drama. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> However, If someone already has a bunch of Mailman experience and can deal >>>> with the receiving mail server issues AND not get blacklisted, then it’s >>>> not “a thing”. If they don’t, well…. then it most definitely IS a thing J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Our original concept that we needed AWS for was quite simple. The email >>>> portion is the only part that got complicated. The Mailman instance has a >>>> fair amount of customization on its current instance to make it intertwine >>>> properly with AWS, so if someone wants to take that one, they also need to >>>> consider that they will mostly be starting from scratch on Mailman >>>> configuration, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have to say though, there is something to be said for the fact that …. >>>> now, it just runs and runs. I wouldn’t take a Cambium solution and >>>> downgrade it to UBNT just because it is “price disruptive”. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We are glad to continue to admin it. Contributions towards the AWS of >>>> course are nice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But, its Chuck’s list and his decision. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 1:37 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Right but who's going to manage the box and fix all the list issues? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Many folks are leaving the cloud due to costs. We, like a lot of others >>>> on this list, can help. I have space in a tierIV data center. We can >>>> spin up a VM or do a dedicated box if someone wants to send one. We have >>>> been buying Dell R710s on eBay for $200 and $200 in new drives and you are >>>> set. We also have some R900s on the way we could spin up a couple of >>>> redundant VMs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just throwing that out there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Justin Wilson >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >>>> >>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >>>> >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >>>> >>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No, we just transferred all the politics over to Mikes FB page... ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jeremy >>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:56 AM >>>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This list is a useful tool, and I definitely appreciate the time and >>>> expense that everyone has put forward to keep it going. That being said, >>>> I don't think it is worth that amount at all whatsoever. That just seems >>>> like a crazy amount of money for what basically amounts to a redundant >>>> list. Now that the republicans on the list are requesting it as a 'safe >>>> space' free from politics, it is hard to see where there is still a need >>>> that justifies that expense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> 3 years ago, when my (still current but estranged) business partners gave >>>> me 30 days to vacate the server farm, Paul really saved the day. I think >>>> he was perfecting his application of ASW for other things at the time so >>>> it was perhaps a bit experimental at the time. I have always really >>>> appreciated what he did for us. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t think it would hurt his feelings if someone else wanted to host >>>> it. There is the list serv and a web site (that has not really been kept >>>> up to date). I have offered to cover the cost of the AWS. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A am OK with anything. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Josh Baird >>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM >>>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> $250/mo to host a single mailing list is well.. insane. I certainly >>>> appreciate Paul hosting the site (and paying these crazy monthly charges), >>>> but I can't help it to question if AWS makes sense for this specific >>>> application. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> If we can get 14 people to donate $150 each we're set for the year... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> $ 970 in contributions have come in so far on supporting AFMUG and are >>>> much appreciated. >>>> >>>> I checked with Amazon on the support consideration (currently paying $ 100 >>>> for that). Unfortunately, to have support available on the API (which is >>>> needed on the mailing part) , we have to keep the $ 100 monthly support >>>> plan. There is no pay per incident for the API level plan, and if you are >>>> haven't paid for the plan previously when there is an incident, you can't >>>> buy it and then cancel it etc.. >>>> >>>> The monthly recurring AWS costs since October 2014, has averaged $ 249.34. >>>> So, figure an annual cost of $ 2992 in AWS fees. Probably, a little >>>> expensive but I am glad to continue it. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:56 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> And would have saved a lot of trees in the process. >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:00 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> Sad, a death that could have been prevented by a decent broadband >>>> connection. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rory Conaway >>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 6:50 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> I don't know, Friday Funnies would be missed. Then there are important >>>> news things that covers dangers we should all be aware of like the >>>> Japanese guy who died when 6 tons of his umm, private magazine collection >>>> fell on him. >>>> These are dangers we should all be aware of when entering houses for >>>> installations. >>>> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six-ton-pile-porn-magazines.html >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wright >>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:20 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> Or if one feels so compelled to post something politically charged, it >>>> must be allegorical and use nomenclature relevant to our industry. >>>> >>>> Ex: If Mimosa truly wanted to convince Ubiquiti supporters that they're >>>> being heard, they should prioritize TCP ACK. >>>> >>>> Chris Wright >>>> Network Administrator >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler >>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:55 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >>>> Sounds good! >>>> >>>> Jon Langeler >>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:49 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > That and shunning political junk. The more I think about it the more >>>> > I am liking this list with everything but politics. We all have >>>> > wasted too much of our time on that. We can still have all the other >>>> > fun stuff. >>>> > Food, movies, jokes, M-TOW use of the day photos... >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley >>>> > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:03 PM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> > >>>> > It may actually be good for some peoples blood pressure. >>>> > >>>> > Mathew Howard wrote: >>>> >> Agreed. It's not going to kill any of us if the list is down for a >>>> >> few hours. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman >>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Reduce it. In the rare event there are issues, it's not a >>>> >> critical service. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Josh Luthman >>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> >>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> >>>> >> 1100 Wayne St >>>> >> Suite 1337 >>>> >> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> We received $ 570 in donations so far. Again, thank you. >>>> >> >>>> >> Its $ 150 a month (round numbers) plus the $ 99 support plan, >>>> >> which I might drop and go to pay per incident but its low >>>> >> priority support only for that. >>>> >> >>>> >> Paul >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >>>> >> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 11:31 AM >>>> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >> >>>> >> Paul, did you get enough to cover the year or do you need more? >>>> >> >>>> >> Rory >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul >>>> >> McCall >>>> >> *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 9:02 AM >>>> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Donations >>>> >> >>>> >> For those of you that sent a donation via Paypal to help >>>> >> offset a portion of the Amazon hosting costs, thank you for >>>> >> the kind gesture. >>>> >> >>>> >> Paul >>>> >> >>>> >> Paul McCall, President >>>> >> >>>> >> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >>>> >> >>>> >> 658 Old Dixie Highway >>>> >> >>>> >> Vero Beach, FL 32962 >>>> >> >>>> >> 772-564-6800 <tel:%28772%29%20564-6800> >>>> >> >>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com> >>>> >> >>>> >> www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> No virus found in this message. >>>> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> >>>> >> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14051 - Release Date: >>>> >> 03/03/17 >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>> >>> >
