The UBNT equipment is plain GPON standard. Works on other GPON equipment. ZTE included.
Regards, Chuck On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie < [email protected]> wrote: > I've got a couple reels of 3/8" steel cable. Definitely not light stuff... > > > On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing >> >> 2+2 = 7 >> >> I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's not too far out of whack >> either. >> >> Figure-8 is also wicked heavy. The spool weight will surprise you. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: 3/29/2017 1:01:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> Yikes, I've bought 72 strand ADSS for less than that. >> >> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The most recent quote I got was $0.83/ft. >>> It's way expensive, but no separate messenger strand. >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: 3/29/2017 11:54:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>> >>> Gotcha. What sort of pricing are you getting on the 12 strand figure-8? >>> I've been using ADSS up to this point since I can get closer to the neutral >>> with it, but figure-8 might work in some new deployment scenarios. >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Figure-8 drop. >>>> >>>> Flat drop cable at $0.16/foot would certainly be cost attractive, but I >>>> assumed it can't go 500' aerial....some poles are that far apart. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: 3/29/2017 11:35:14 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>> >>>> Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable? >>>> I've got a couple scenarios that I was looking at using 12ct flat drop, but >>>> the only way I can think of to get it in the air is by using wedge clamps. >>>> Not sure if these are good for the distance between some of the utility >>>> poles out there. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think the idea is you can run a 12 strand aerial cable down a rural >>>>> road. Since you're using this skinny cable, you can use a $40 closure to >>>>> put a PON coupler in front of the customer prem. >>>>> >>>>> My quick estimate is the difference might be around $6,000 per >>>>> mile.....that changes with assumptions on how many houses are on that mile >>>>> and so on....maybe $4k to $6k is fairer. >>>>> >>>>> I don't have pricing from Calix. I'm looking at Alphion...the ONT is >>>>> pretty close to a routerboard. The OLT is a lot more than a mikrotik >>>>> switch, but cost per customer port (assuming 1:16 PON) is on par with a >>>>> mid >>>>> grade switch. It's more than mikrotik, less than Juniper. I can't share >>>>> numbers due to NDA, but that's the idea. >>>>> >>>>> We're looking at doing a whole rural town with 50 miles of road and >>>>> 300 households. I haven't gotten down to brass tacks yet, but on the >>>>> surface it seems like the savings is enough to buy a really nice bucket >>>>> truck. >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>> >>>>> Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had >>>>>> 16 or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON. >>>>>> But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like >>>>>> Sterling I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix PON. >>>>>> >>>>>> With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of >>>>>> the cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. >>>>>> So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you >>>>>> place the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on >>>>>> new >>>>>> greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a >>>>>> regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations. I >>>>>> have >>>>>> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc. >>>>>> Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to >>>>>> tackle. >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower >>>>>> fiber >>>>>> count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper >>>>>> enclosures. >>>>>> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I >>>>>> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other >>>>>>> ideas. >>>>>>> Cheap... you get what you pay for. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be >>>>>>> around in the years to come. >>>>>>> Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go >>>>>>> active ethernet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to >>>>>>> wait >>>>>>> for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that >>>>>>> other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but >>>>>>> that's >>>>>>> less important to me than having it just work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jon Langeler >>>>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are >>>>>>>>> coded, yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from >>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>> he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested >>>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>>> vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> is going to be a matter of chance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with >>>>>>>>>> GPON. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jared >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
