I had a guy offer me shots, try to smoke a bowl with me, and then pull a gun and threaten to kill my family if I told anyone that he was a drug dealer. I finished up quick and left. Dude racked up a giant bill, got shut off for non-payment. Then he paid with a credit card to get it turned back on, and disputed the charges....claimed he didn't know who we were. I fought it and he lost. It really made me wish that I had turned the sorry SOB in. If I had been carrying that night, I would have shot him....with his seven year old daughter in the house.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Robert Haas <[email protected]> wrote: > I carry afterhours when I am responding by myself – some areas I will not > respond to after hours alone or otherwise. I do not carry during normal > business hours. > > > > For our techs though, they are told to leave the area immediately if there > is a significant threat, then to call the office or police. > > -- > > We’ve had 2 incidents of people pulling weapons on our techs recently. > > One was a scheduled site survey. CSR’s called and spoke with the lady and > gave her a time frame to expect the tech. Tech showed up, knocked on the > door, rang the doorbell etc. and there was no response. He began doing the > survey and was standing on the extension ladder when the lady came out and > started screaming at him and pointing a revolver at him. The tech ran up > the ladder and over the peak of the house. She came around the other side > of the house and screamed at him to get off the roof – he got down and > loaded his ladder up and left. > > She called complaining that we showed up un-announced and our vehicles > aren’t marked – both of which are false – we also wear company shirts with > our logo. > > The best part was her husband called up later wanting to know if it passed > or not and then got pissed when we told him that we refused to service his > location.. > > > > -- > > The other we had a tech out on a service call. The house’s eves were > rotten and the J-arm and radio had fallen off the eve. Tech sent me pics of > the house which was pretty much falling in on itself. I told the tech to > speak to the homeowner about putting a 4x4 post down at the corner of the > house so we could re-attach the radio but that we were not going to be able > to mount the radio back on the house due to its condition. Homeowner blows > up goes inside and comes back out with a shotgun and tells the tech to take > the equipment otherwise he was going to blow his head off. > > -- > > > > I’ve personally have had people walk up on me while working at a site in > the early morning hours like at 1-2am. Nothing came of them – they were > just intoxicated out wandering I guess. > > > > I also, completely on accident, hit a guy with a half full 44 ounce soda > who was digging in one of our dumpsters at 3am. I was working late and was > finished and cleaning up, the dumpster is probably 15’ or so from the door > of the shelter. I walked out and took a couple of steps towards my van and > threw my soda into the dumpster. Unbeknown to me he was digging through the > dumpster and I nailed him right in the head and the cup burst on him. He > was slightly peeved and started towards me. All I could think to grab was > my mag light out of the passenger seat of my van. I told him if he got any > closer that we were going to find out how well the flashlight held up being > used like a bat. > > > > > > -- > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > > > alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self defense > weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who gets harmed > and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats a liability, > then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. > > We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, i > would not carry at work > > I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions and > conflict resolution > > > > Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense training > to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you trained him to > do that, even though its well outside the scope of a self defense class. > Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat him to a pulp, theres > liability in that too. > > > > I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go out to > over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get him a > gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy dressed > like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before it even > starts. > > > > Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a > shillelagh > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gun control is pretty political... > > > > Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to have. > > > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > > > LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with making > the video). > > > > And so you are in agreement that :- > > "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend > themselves" > > > > Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with such ! > > > > :) > > > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 <(305)%20663-5518> x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *[email protected] > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Call cops. > > Duck for cover. > > Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. > > > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > > > Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with relevance... > > > > We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP for them, > under such circumstances ? > > What type of training do we need to provide to assure everyone's safety ? > > What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Paul McCall" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related site that we have > re-established. We all have opinions, but… > > > > Paul 😊 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is very political, > like global warming, evolution and the flat earth. > > > > All of which should be discussed on other forums as they have nothing to > do with operating a WISP. > > > > We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. > > > > > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > one last question... > > > > >> for this political BS > > > > Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is "political" ? > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this list. There were a > lot of great things you could have stated here: > > > > Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? > > Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is shooting the tires out. > > Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls get shot out > > How the ground guys handled the situation > > If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend > themselves > > > > You get where I’m going but this list has no place for this political BS. > The sad part is you sent this to the list. > > > > Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > > > Welcome to Miami > > > > http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots- > out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ > > > > > > ----------------- > > Here is the sad reality.... > > > > Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested.. > > If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person most likely would have > been shot on sight by the Cops. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU > > Happened today. > > > > > > > > >
