What happened to gat, that was so 90s On Jul 21, 2017 9:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Gangster movies called them a “piece”. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Quete is slang for hand gun around here > > Jaime Solorza > > On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: > >> I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by >> folks from different areas ! >> (I learned Queen's English, as such folks often pointed out to me that my >> choice of words in conversation were sometimes not common). >> >> Love how in this thread folks have refereed to their "side arm" as Gun, >> Revolver, Luger, Heat, and Pistol !.... >> You all are now making me think that I need to add the SuperSoaker as a >> standard item in my toolbag ! >> >> :) >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:11:47 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >> Mitigation. >> >> > It's a scary feeling when you get to a site that is in the middle of >> > nowhere late at night to find out it's been vandalized and not know >> > where the culprit is. I've started taking a pistol on my late night >> > service calls if I am alone and almost always have a mag light with me >> > day or night. >> > >> > Robert Haas wrote: >> >> >> >> I carry afterhours when I am responding by myself – some areas I will >> >> not respond to after hours alone or otherwise. I do not carry during >> >> normal business hours. >> >> >> >> For our techs though, they are told to leave the area immediately if >> >> there is a significant threat, then to call the office or police. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> We’ve had 2 incidents of people pulling weapons on our techs recently. >> >> >> >> One was a scheduled site survey. CSR’s called and spoke with the lady >> >> and gave her a time frame to expect the tech. Tech showed up, knocked >> >> on the door, rang the doorbell etc. and there was no response. He >> >> began doing the survey and was standing on the extension ladder when >> >> the lady came out and started screaming at him and pointing a revolver >> >> at him. The tech ran up the ladder and over the peak of the house. She >> >> came around the other side of the house and screamed at him to get off >> >> the roof – he got down and loaded his ladder up and left. >> >> >> >> She called complaining that we showed up un-announced and our vehicles >> >> aren’t marked – both of which are false – we also wear company shirts >> >> with our logo. >> >> >> >> The best part was her husband called up later wanting to know if it >> >> passed or not and then got pissed when we told him that we refused to >> >> service his location.. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> The other we had a tech out on a service call. The house’s eves were >> >> rotten and the J-arm and radio had fallen off the eve. Tech sent me >> >> pics of the house which was pretty much falling in on itself. I told >> >> the tech to speak to the homeowner about putting a 4x4 post down at >> >> the corner of the house so we could re-attach the radio but that we >> >> were not going to be able to mount the radio back on the house due to >> >> its condition. Homeowner blows up goes inside and comes back out with >> >> a shotgun and tells the tech to take the equipment otherwise he was >> >> going to blow his head off. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> I’ve personally have had people walk up on me while working at a site >> >> in the early morning hours like at 1-2am. Nothing came of them – they >> >> were just intoxicated out wandering I guess. >> >> >> >> I also, completely on accident, hit a guy with a half full 44 ounce >> >> soda who was digging in one of our dumpsters at 3am. I was working >> >> late and was finished and cleaning up, the dumpster is probably 15’ or >> >> so from the door of the shelter. I walked out and took a couple of >> >> steps towards my van and threw my soda into the dumpster. Unbeknown to >> >> me he was digging through the dumpster and I nailed him right in the >> >> head and the cup burst on him. He was slightly peeved and started >> >> towards me. All I could think to grab was my mag light out of the >> >> passenger seat of my van. I told him if he got any closer that we were >> >> going to find out how well the flashlight held up being used like a >> bat. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >> >> Mitigation. >> >> >> >> alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self >> >> defense weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who >> >> gets harmed and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats >> >> a liability, then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. >> >> >> >> We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, >> >> i would not carry at work >> >> >> >> I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions >> >> and conflict resolution >> >> >> >> Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense >> >> training to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you >> >> trained him to do that, even though its well outside the scope of a >> >> self defense class. Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat >> >> him to a pulp, theres liability in that too. >> >> >> >> I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go out >> >> to over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get >> >> him a gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy >> >> dressed like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before >> >> it even starts. >> >> >> >> Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a >> >> shillelagh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com >> >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Gun control is pretty political... >> >> >> >> Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to >> >> have. >> >> >> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >> >> Mitigation. >> >> >> >> LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with >> >> making the video). >> >> >> >> And so you are in agreement that :- >> >> >> >> "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to >> >> defend themselves" >> >> >> >> Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with such >> ! >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >> Miami, FL 33155 >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>x 232 >> >> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or >> >> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------ >> >> >> >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >> >> >> >> Call cops. >> >> >> >> Duck for cover. >> >> >> >> Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. >> >> >> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >> >> >> >> Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with >> relevance... >> >> >> >> We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP >> >> for them, under such circumstances ? >> >> >> >> What type of training do we need to provide to assure >> >> everyone's safety ? >> >> >> >> What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ? >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >> Miami, FL 33155 >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >> >> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or >> >> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------ >> >> >> >> *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net >> >> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> >> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >> >> trucks >> >> >> >> YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related >> >> site that we have re-established. We all have opinions, >> but… >> >> >> >> Paul 😊 >> >> >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of >> >> *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >> >> trucks >> >> >> >> Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is >> >> very political, like global warming, evolution and the >> >> flat earth. >> >> >> >> All of which should be discussed on other forums as they >> >> have nothing to do with operating a WISP. >> >> >> >> We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. >> >> >> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >> >> >> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM >> >> >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >> >> trucks >> >> >> >> one last question... >> >> >> >> >> for this political BS >> >> >> >> Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is >> >> "political" ? >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >> Miami, FL 33155 >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >> >> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option >> >> 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <dus...@rseng.net >> >> <mailto:dus...@rseng.net>> >> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T >> >> bucket trucks >> >> >> >> That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this >> >> list. There were a lot of great things you could have >> >> stated here: >> >> >> >> Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? >> >> >> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is >> >> shooting the tires out. >> >> >> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls >> >> get shot out >> >> >> >> How the ground guys handled the situation >> >> >> >> If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the >> >> right to defend themselves >> >> >> >> You get where I’m going but this list has no place for >> >> this political BS. The sad part is you sent this to >> >> the list. >> >> >> >> Dustin >> >> >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of >> >> *Faisal Imtiaz >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >> >> AT&T bucket trucks >> >> >> >> Welcome to Miami >> >> >> >> http://wsvn.com/news/local/eld >> erly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ >> >> >> >> ----------------- >> >> >> >> Here is the sad reality.... >> >> >> >> Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested.. >> >> >> >> If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person >> >> most likely would have been shot on sight by the Cops. >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >> Miami, FL 33155 >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >> >> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 >> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or Email: >> >> supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> >> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM >> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >> >> AT&T bucket trucks >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU >> >> >> >> Happened today. >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_ >> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_ >> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> >> >> >> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >
