I mean more unlimited speed SM with a small integrated unit and a ~25dbi ~16" dish doing the entire 5 GHz band.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:38 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: > In the past it's been about heat dissipation/heat sinks. The 450 SM boards > get a little warm. Maybe the 450i SoC is better suited to the Force180/200 > style enclosures for this reason. > > On 7/28/2017 2:04 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > Ouch! Lol > > From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman < > [email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications > > EPMP team showing the PMP450 guys how it's done *flex* > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> First one will look a lot like the Force 180. List is $299. Full band, >> full speed. >> >> Second one will look like the Force 200 (scheduled for October). List is >> $349 IIRC. >> >> Jeff Broadwick >> ConVergence Technologies, Inc. >> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office >> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell >> [email protected] >> >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is the 450b? >> >> On 7/28/17, 12:55 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Mangriotis" >> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >Joe - I just answered your forum post... but might as well repeat and add >> >to it here too. >> > >> >You guys are right in that the combination of the two factors are what >> >matters to the modulation that the radio will achieve. You have to be >> >above a certain absolute power level (RSL), but ALSO have enough distance >> >(SNR) above the noise to decipher the bits. That is, even if you're >> >receiving the intended signal at -55, but have noise at -70, the 15 dB >> >separation (i.e. SNR) isn't enough to allow for 256QAM modulation. >> > >> >Regarding sensitivity levels, the easiest place for me to find these is >> >in the Link Capacity Planner Tool: >> >https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/capacityplanner/ >> > >> >You can input the radios you're using and it'll spit those out. >> > >> >During final product testing, we've determined that the 450b is >> >equivalent to the 450i SM in these specifications, so until that tool >> >gets updated with official numbers (which may vary slightly), I would use >> >that. >> > >> >Hope this helps, >> >Matt >> > >> > >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On Behalf >> Of Joe Falaschi >> >Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:49 AM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications >> > >> >Sure it would. We have some links reporting a SNR above 32db, enough to >> >get 8x but are weaker than -56 signals. So both matter. >> > >> >Joe >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level? What good is >> >>-67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm? >> >> >> >> Chris Wright >> >> Network Administrator >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Joe Falaschi >> >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications >> >> >> >> We¹re looking at some questions of why certain links are at certain >> >>modulations (uplink is better than downlink). It¹s explained by the >> >>spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity. Basically the >> >>450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can. Specs below. In >> >>any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX sensitivity would >> >>be. There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but this isn¹t listed. >> >> Anyone have this information? >> >> >> >> 450M AP RX sensitivity >> >> 1x = - 93.5 dBm >> >> 2x = -88.6 dBm >> >> 4x = -81.5 dBm >> >> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm >> >> 8x = -67.8 dBm >> >> >> >> 450SM RX sensitivity >> >> 1x = -84 dBm >> >> 2x = -80.5 dBm >> >> 4x = -74 dBm >> >> 6x = -66.9 dBm >> >> 8x = -56 dBm >> >> >> >> 450i SM RX sensitivity >> >> 1x = -85.9 dBm >> >> 2x = -81.5 dBm >> >> 4x = -75.8 dBm >> >> 6x = -69.3 dBm >> >> 8x = -61.6 dBm >> >> >> >> Joe Falaschi >> >> e-vergent >> >> >> > >> >> > >
