Sounds very Greek / Roman

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

> The saying is "Eat your children."
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> bp
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> On 7/29/2017 10:37 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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> Yeah, but sometimes you don’t like some of your children.
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> *From:* Matt Mangriotis
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:22 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
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> We love ALL of our children!
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 2:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
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> Ouch! Lol
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> *From: *Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM
> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
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> EPMP team showing the PMP450 guys how it's done *flex*
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> Josh Luthman
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> *Gino A. Villarini*
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> President
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> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> First one will look a lot like the Force 180.  List is $299.  Full band,
> full speed.
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> Second one will look like the Force 200 (scheduled for October).  List is
> $349 IIRC.
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> Jeff Broadwick
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> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
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> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:
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> What is the 450b?
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> On 7/28/17, 12:55 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Mangriotis"
> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>
> wrote:
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> >Joe - I just answered your forum post... but might as well repeat and add
> >to it here too.
> >
> >You guys are right in that the combination of the two factors are what
> >matters to the modulation that the radio will achieve.  You have to be
> >above a certain absolute power level (RSL), but ALSO have enough distance
> >(SNR) above the noise to decipher the bits.  That is, even if you're
> >receiving the intended signal at -55, but have noise at -70, the 15 dB
> >separation (i.e. SNR) isn't enough to allow for 256QAM modulation.
> >
> >Regarding sensitivity levels, the easiest place for me to find these is
> >in the Link Capacity Planner Tool:
> >https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/capacityplanner/
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.cambiumnetworks.com%2Ffiles%2Fcapacityplanner%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmatt.mangriotis%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C13dfe165df294955425808d4d5eb791b%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C1%7C0%7C636368654723361813&sdata=OZjdEgdNOlKSuSNP261i82pkSU28heLFmo3IIyHE0NE%3D&reserved=0>
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> >You can input the radios you're using and it'll spit those out.
> >
> >During final product testing, we've determined that the 450b is
> >equivalent to the 450i SM in these specifications, so until that tool
> >gets updated with official numbers (which may vary slightly), I would use
> >that.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >Matt
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> >
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> *Gino A. Villarini*
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> President
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> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi
> >Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:49 AM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
> >
> >Sure it would.  We have some links reporting a SNR above 32db, enough to
> >get 8x but are weaker than -56 signals.  So both matter.
> >
> >Joe
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> >
> >
> >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level? What good is
> >>-67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm?
> >>
> >> Chris Wright
> >> Network Administrator
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi
> >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
> >>
> >> We¹re looking at some questions of why certain links are at certain
> >>modulations (uplink is better than downlink).  It¹s explained by the
> >>spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity.  Basically the
> >>450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can.  Specs below.  In
> >>any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX sensitivity would
> >>be.  There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but this isn¹t listed.
> >> Anyone have this information?
> >>
> >> 450M AP RX sensitivity
> >> 1x = - 93.5 dBm
> >> 2x = -88.6 dBm
> >> 4x = -81.5 dBm
> >> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm
> >> 8x = -67.8 dBm
> >>
> >> 450SM RX sensitivity
> >> 1x = -84 dBm
> >> 2x = -80.5 dBm
> >> 4x = -74 dBm
> >> 6x = -66.9 dBm
> >> 8x = -56 dBm
> >>
> >> 450i SM RX sensitivity
> >> 1x = -85.9 dBm
> >> 2x = -81.5 dBm
> >> 4x = -75.8 dBm
> >> 6x = -69.3 dBm
> >> 8x = -61.6 dBm
> >>
> >> Joe Falaschi
> >> e-vergent
> >>
> >
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