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On 7/29/2017 11:22 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 2:04 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications

Ouch! Lol

*From: *Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *Reply-To: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Date: *Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM
*To: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications

EPMP team showing the PMP450 guys how it's done *flex*


Josh Luthman
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/*Gino A. Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    First one will look a lot like the Force 180.  List is $299.  Full
    band, full speed.

Second one will look like the Force 200 (scheduled for October). List is $349 IIRC.

    Jeff Broadwick

    ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

    312-205-2519 <tel:%28312%29%20205-2519> Office

    574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell

    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


    On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        What is the 450b?

        On 7/28/17, 12:55 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Mangriotis"
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
        of [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

        >Joe - I just answered your forum post... but might as well
        repeat and add
        >to it here too.
        >
        >You guys are right in that the combination of the two factors
        are what
        >matters to the modulation that the radio will achieve.  You
        have to be
        >above a certain absolute power level (RSL), but ALSO have
        enough distance
        >(SNR) above the noise to decipher the bits.  That is, even if
        you're
        >receiving the intended signal at -55, but have noise at -70,
        the 15 dB
        >separation (i.e. SNR) isn't enough to allow for 256QAM
        modulation.
        >
        >Regarding sensitivity levels, the easiest place for me to
        find these is
        >in the Link Capacity Planner Tool:
        >https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/capacityplanner/
        
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.cambiumnetworks.com%2Ffiles%2Fcapacityplanner%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmatt.mangriotis%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C13dfe165df294955425808d4d5eb791b%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C1%7C0%7C636368654723361813&sdata=OZjdEgdNOlKSuSNP261i82pkSU28heLFmo3IIyHE0NE%3D&reserved=0>
        >
        >You can input the radios you're using and it'll spit those out.
        >
        >During final product testing, we've determined that the 450b is
        >equivalent to the 450i SM in these specifications, so until
        that tool
        >gets updated with official numbers (which may vary slightly),
        I would use
        >that.
        >
        >Hope this helps,
        >Matt
        >
        >

        /*Gino A. Villarini*/

        President

        Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

        -----Original Message-----
        >From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi
        >Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:49 AM
        >To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
        >
        >Sure it would.  We have some links reporting a SNR above
        32db, enough to
        >get 8x but are weaker than -56 signals.  So both matter.
        >
        >Joe
        >
        >
        >
        >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >>
        >> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level?
        What good is
        >>-67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm?
        >>
        >> Chris Wright
        >> Network Administrator
        >>
        >>
        >> -----Original Message-----
        >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe
        Falaschi
        >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM
        >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        >> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
        >>
        >> We�re looking at some questions of why certain links are at
        certain
        >>modulations (uplink is better than downlink).  It�s
        explained by the
        >>spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity.
        Basically the
>>450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can. Specs below. In
        >>any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX
        sensitivity would
        >>be.  There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but this
        isn�t listed.
        >> Anyone have this information?
        >>
        >> 450M AP RX sensitivity
        >> 1x = - 93.5 dBm
        >> 2x = -88.6 dBm
        >> 4x = -81.5 dBm
        >> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm
        >> 8x = -67.8 dBm
        >>
        >> 450SM RX sensitivity
        >> 1x = -84 dBm
        >> 2x = -80.5 dBm
        >> 4x = -74 dBm
        >> 6x = -66.9 dBm
        >> 8x = -56 dBm
        >>
        >> 450i SM RX sensitivity
        >> 1x = -85.9 dBm
        >> 2x = -81.5 dBm
        >> 4x = -75.8 dBm
        >> 6x = -69.3 dBm
        >> 8x = -61.6 dBm
        >>
        >> Joe Falaschi
        >> e-vergent
        >>
        >


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