Yeah, but sometimes you don’t like some of your children.  

From: Matt Mangriotis 
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:22 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications

We love ALL of our children!

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications

 

Ouch! Lol 

 

From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]>
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Date: Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications

 

EPMP team showing the PMP450 guys how it's done *flex*




 

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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  First one will look a lot like the Force 180.  List is $299.  Full band, full 
speed.

   

  Second one will look like the Force 200 (scheduled for October).  List is 
$349 IIRC.

  Jeff Broadwick 

  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

  312-205-2519 Office

  574-220-7826 Cell

  [email protected]


  On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

    What is the 450b?

    On 7/28/17, 12:55 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Mangriotis"
    <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Joe - I just answered your forum post... but might as well repeat and add
    >to it here too.
    >
    >You guys are right in that the combination of the two factors are what
    >matters to the modulation that the radio will achieve.  You have to be
    >above a certain absolute power level (RSL), but ALSO have enough distance
    >(SNR) above the noise to decipher the bits.  That is, even if you're
    >receiving the intended signal at -55, but have noise at -70, the 15 dB
    >separation (i.e. SNR) isn't enough to allow for 256QAM modulation.
    >
    >Regarding sensitivity levels, the easiest place for me to find these is
    >in the Link Capacity Planner Tool:
    >https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/capacityplanner/
    >
    >You can input the radios you're using and it'll spit those out.
    >
    >During final product testing, we've determined that the 450b is
    >equivalent to the 450i SM in these specifications, so until that tool
    >gets updated with official numbers (which may vary slightly), I would use
    >that.
    >
    >Hope this helps,
    >Matt
    >
    > 

           

          Gino A. Villarini
         
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    -----Original Message-----
    >From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi
    >Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:49 AM
    >To: [email protected]
    >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
    >
    >Sure it would.  We have some links reporting a SNR above 32db, enough to
    >get 8x but are weaker than -56 signals.  So both matter.
    >
    >Joe
    >
    >
    >
    >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level? What good is
    >>-67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm?
    >>
    >> Chris Wright
    >> Network Administrator
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi
    >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM
    >> To: [email protected]
    >> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
    >>
    >> We¹re looking at some questions of why certain links are at certain
    >>modulations (uplink is better than downlink).  It¹s explained by the
    >>spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity.  Basically the
    >>450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can.  Specs below.  In
    >>any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX sensitivity would
    >>be.  There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but this isn¹t listed.
    >> Anyone have this information?
    >>
    >> 450M AP RX sensitivity
    >> 1x = - 93.5 dBm
    >> 2x = -88.6 dBm
    >> 4x = -81.5 dBm
    >> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm
    >> 8x = -67.8 dBm
    >>
    >> 450SM RX sensitivity
    >> 1x = -84 dBm
    >> 2x = -80.5 dBm
    >> 4x = -74 dBm
    >> 6x = -66.9 dBm
    >> 8x = -56 dBm
    >>
    >> 450i SM RX sensitivity
    >> 1x = -85.9 dBm
    >> 2x = -81.5 dBm
    >> 4x = -75.8 dBm
    >> 6x = -69.3 dBm
    >> 8x = -61.6 dBm
    >>
    >> Joe Falaschi
    >> e-vergent
    >>
    >

 

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