... You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still hit a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate for fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be legal.
On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link? > > Rory > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: af <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 > > No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case. > > On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > >> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on >> a licensed link above the stated limits? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're >> done with it. >> >> >> >> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain >> fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if >> the radios can't run at full modulation at full power. >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel. >> >> >> >> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though. The power setting >> is pre-determined. How does ATPC play into this? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can >> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, >> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot >> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a >> 2.4 cluster? >> >> >> >> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when >> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, >> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >> I think Steve may have wrestled with it !.. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ducking ! >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >> supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, >> it's not under pressure in shipment. >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could >> cause the pop off. >> >> >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote: >> >> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's >> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, >> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air >> pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture >> wouldn't be able to escape. >> >> >> >> Just contact them on chat on our site. >> >> >> >> Jaime >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These >> will blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when >> it falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole.. >> >> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >> supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off >> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can program >> a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what I >> call efficiency in terms of training. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific >> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly >> a rocket ship, but still... >> >> >> >> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet? >> >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a >> field issue. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> That's not necessarily a good thing. >> >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training >> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining >> about that? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window >> >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good >> >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Did you ever use the original ePMP? >> >> >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> ill have to look into browser >> >> >> >> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the >> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears >> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought >> >> >> >> at least its not java, ill give it that >> >> >> >> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say >> it’s clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. >> >> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If >> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and >> connect. >> >> >> >> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how >> that is any different than anyone else. >> >> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save >> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want. >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11 >> >> >> >> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor >> >> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any >> issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad >> these are going in a redundant path >> >> >> >> essids reverting to factory... awesome >> >> >> >> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going >> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 >> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones >> getting chucked through a window >> >> >> >> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking >> stupid is that. >> >> >> >> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz >> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty >> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking >> upconverts, I should have researched more >> >> >> >> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect >> for the epmp >> >> >> >> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure >> if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys >> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up. >> >> >> >> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of >> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface >> on. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
