When the coordinator creates the link, that should be calculated in the path budget. I’m assuming the power output at maximum modulation is part of that calculation. I’ve only done 3 links and have never seen any need for ATPC. They all came in at the maximum modulation rate of the antenna, even our shortest one at 5 miles.
Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 No, an overpowered transmitter with a hot rx will screw rhings up, best to let a more versed and talented person explain that than i. Theses things srent full duplex so it will be worse, again let a person who better understands it explain it. Our saf in normal operation is always running about 13db output less than max. If i lock them at full powere, which results in a low -40 they perform like hammered shit, turn up atpc at -55 and jesus smiles. And a ton of margin. Like anything else with regs, theres a max tx. Without any automagic power controls, too much power is going to fresh prison inmate the modulation and capacity. I dont make the rulea, i just follow them. I also still dont buy that this link, licensed in corn fields has a noise floor in the 80s. Ill about guarantee if i shut down my 5ghz gear it will be in the 90s like it was in the shop yesterday where there isnt any 5ghz. Ubnt all over again, only with the fcc getting their cut On Aug 26, 2017 10:58 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case. On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a licensed link above the stated limits? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done with it. You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios can't run at full modulation at full power. On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: The WiFi will find the cleanest channel. Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though. The power setting is pre-determined. How does ATPC play into this? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster? Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever. On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: I think Steve may have wrestled with it !.. Ducking ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> ________________________________ From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not under pressure in shipment. On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause the pop off. From: Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote: Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able to escape. Just contact them on chat on our site. Jaime On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole.. Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> ________________________________ From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can program a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what I call efficiency in terms of training. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship, but still... PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet? On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field issue. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 That's not necessarily a good thing. On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Did you ever use the original ePMP? From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 ill have to look into browser by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought at least its not java, ill give it that I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say it’s clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect. Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is any different than anyone else. As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are going in a redundant path essids reverting to factory... awesome I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting chucked through a window seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid is that. now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I should have researched more the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the epmp reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up. I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.
