Our only hope here is China gets serious and steps up and imposes its own sanctions against North Korea so that we don't have to cut China off from our economy.
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > > We actually have a great deal of bargaining power in all this. > > No, that's folly. > > It's economic M.A.D. It would crash both the US and Chinese > economies... would also impact Taiwan / HK. > > As far as tech stuff, we'd be fucked for a few years. China has 85-95% > of the world's rare earth mining capacity used in things we use every > day, from watches, phones, cars, drones, military equipment, medical > equipment, things NASA depends on, etc. They have roughly 1/3rd of the > world's rare earth deposits, but there is no production really spun up > anywhere else. We have a place in California, and friends in > Australia, but those facilities are closed due to the low Chinese > prices. > > If you thought the crashes of 2000/2008 were bad, imagine 25-35% > unemployment that would largely not be soaked up by newly opened US > facilities due to the cost of manufacturing here. > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Foxconn is coming here (IPhone) > > Taiwan is hoping this goes down, their sovereignty is on the table > > Philippines and Malaysia used to produce, probably a lot of shuttered > > factories > > we haven't closed the door on cuba yet > > There is no shortage of slave labor nations, china knows this. > > When you rely on the spoils of slaver and servitude such as we do, its > best > > to spread the risk around, and that's what we are poised to do with > this. It > > will hurt in the wallet for a time, but in the end, we would be better, > > critical components will make their way back to silicon valley, the rest > of > > the stuff will spread out. > > > > We actually have a great deal of bargaining power in all this. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> The short version of this, is that for the first time since April > >> 30th, 1975 (end of Vietnam War) the American people might actually > >> realize we are at war. They've largely been excluded from that fact > >> for almost 17 years now. This however, would be a much more > >> conventional battle. We are REALLY good at those, or at least we were > >> at one time. > >> > >> The alternative is that North Korean continues their program to > >> increase their range, accuracy, explosive potential, and eventually a > >> multi-warhead (MIRV) situation. There have been some links in the past > >> between NK and Iran, so if NK ends up being successful, Iran would > >> likely be quick to follow. > >> > >> None of this is any good. > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I'm starting to get worried if the US tries to punish China for North > >> > Korea > >> > what does this mean for wireless radios that are made in China? Will > we > >> > not > >> > be able to import them anymore? We rely quite a bit on products made > in > >> > China for our everyday lives. I use alot of Ubiquiti products and if i > >> > can > >> > no longer get those my WISP operations would be severely crippled... > > > > >
