He always has a choice. On Oct 18, 2017 7:14 AM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> He didn't have a choice. His cloud-based billing provider went out of > business and sold to sonar. So he doesn't even really have the option of > running old software, he's being forced to upgrade. > > On Oct 18, 2017, at 07:55, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please don't become a Sonar customer just to demonize them because you > don't like their service model. > > Seriously. That'd be a super shitty thing to do. > > On Oct 18, 2017 6:52 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I will be using it shortly as Sonar bought WISPMon. >> >> All of the major billing\OSS platforms with modern features are also >> cloud-based, so there's not really anywhere else to go. >> >> That's fine for you that it works that way, but many WISPs are increasing >> their use of on-premises virtualization. What about your monitoring, DNS, >> RADIUS, syslog, Unimus, mail, etc., etc. servers? >> >> Yes, my reasons do outweigh arbitrary reasons to keep it in a cloud >> environment. >> >> Actually, I've been fairly quiet on this particular issue and will be >> increasing my advocacy efforts in this regard to all billing\OSS platforms. >> As I said, it's the SFP port of the billing\OSS world. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:08:47 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sonar >> >> I'm in agreement with Simon that it's much faster and reliable to host in >> the cloud than a server on site. It would cost me many more hours, hand >> holding, and worry if I had to host this server in my network. If I went on >> vacation and something happened, I'd be stressed. >> >> With sonar living in the cloud, there's less to worry about as it's >> hosted in a much more reliable datacenter than I could afford to build. >> It's also managed by sonar's team so if there's an issue, they take care of >> it. Stress free for me. >> >> I see why you might want to host it in house but those reasons do NOT >> outweigh all the benefits of letting sonar host it in the cloud for you and >> take care of the problems. >> >> Mike, if you don't like Simon's decision to leave it in the cloud, shut >> up and move on. There's no reason for you and Matt Hoppes to keep beating a >> dead horse and sound like a broken record. Use something else you're happy >> with and let the rest of us grow our business and make more $$ while you >> two complain about a product you don't even use. Jeez ha >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2017 8:31 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 10/17/17 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> Expect repeated harassment until a good reason is presented or you >>>> capitulate. >>>> >>>> It's the SFP of the billing\OSS world. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I always welcome my competitors to have external dependencies. When they >>> try to hand wave their problems away as vendor or cloud problems it helps >>> me gain new customers. >>> >>> ~Seth >>> >> >>
