Wispmon was cloud only wasn't it?

Josh Luthman
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On Oct 18, 2017 9:16 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

> He always has a choice.
>
> On Oct 18, 2017 7:14 AM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> He didn't have a choice. His cloud-based billing provider went out of
>> business and sold to sonar. So he doesn't even really have the option of
>> running old software, he's being forced to upgrade.
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 07:55, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Please don't become a Sonar customer just to demonize them because you
>> don't like their service model.
>>
>> Seriously. That'd be a super shitty thing to do.
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2017 6:52 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I will be using it shortly as Sonar bought WISPMon.
>>>
>>> All of the major billing\OSS platforms with modern features are also
>>> cloud-based, so there's not really anywhere else to go.
>>>
>>> That's fine for you that it works that way, but many WISPs are
>>> increasing their use of on-premises virtualization. What about your
>>> monitoring, DNS, RADIUS, syslog, Unimus, mail, etc., etc. servers?
>>>
>>> Yes, my reasons do outweigh arbitrary reasons to keep it in a cloud
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Actually, I've been fairly quiet on this particular issue and will be
>>> increasing my advocacy efforts in this regard to all billing\OSS platforms.
>>> As I said, it's the SFP port of the billing\OSS world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:08:47 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>>>
>>> I'm in agreement with Simon that it's much faster and reliable to host
>>> in the cloud than a server on site. It would cost me many more hours, hand
>>> holding, and worry if I had to host this server in my network. If I went on
>>> vacation and something happened, I'd be stressed.
>>>
>>> With sonar living in the cloud, there's less to worry about as it's
>>> hosted in a much more reliable datacenter than I could afford to build.
>>> It's also managed by sonar's team so if there's an issue, they take care of
>>> it. Stress free for me.
>>>
>>> I see why you might want to host it in house but those reasons do NOT
>>> outweigh all the benefits of letting sonar host it in the cloud for you and
>>> take care of the problems.
>>>
>>> Mike, if you don't like Simon's decision to leave it in the cloud, shut
>>> up and move on. There's no reason for you and Matt Hoppes to keep beating a
>>> dead horse and sound like a broken record. Use something else you're happy
>>> with and let the rest of us grow our business and make more $$ while you
>>> two complain about a product you don't even use. Jeez ha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:31 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/17/17 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Expect repeated harassment until a good reason is presented or you
>>>>> capitulate.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the SFP of the billing\OSS world.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I always welcome my competitors to have external dependencies. When
>>>> they try to hand wave their problems away as vendor or cloud problems it
>>>> helps me gain new customers.
>>>>
>>>> ~Seth
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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