George, How much worse is the Omni setup? I have a couple sites that I could put an inverted Verticle under the H-pol already in place.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my opinion, it's not going to be worth it to do a complete upgrade from > what you currently have on PMP100 to 450i. Are the customer's pretty evenly > spread across all those APs? If there are a few APs that are a lot denser, > it may make sense to upgrade those APs, but to me it's just not worth > putting that kind of money into 900mhz at this point. > > When PMP450i 900mhz first came out, we it was working great for us... but > now half our APs are nearly worthless because the noise floor has gone up > so much in certain areas (I'm assuming smart grid, but I haven't actually > verified that). > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:34 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> > wrote: > >> We've got about 10 450i 900 APs up now. We tried Baicells at most of >> those sites. I'm talking stupid dense trees. Made it two blocks in a small >> town and RSRP dropped off to -120. Plus that was back when you couldn't >> turn down the Tx power on the eNB. It was the full 1W per port, so we were >> still 4-5dB over the EIRP limit with a KP 14dBi sector and cable loss. >> >> We do have Baicells at other sites and we've seen roughly 85% success >> rate getting customers off of 900. So it does work, just not everywhere. >> >> Anyway.. a couple of those 900 450i sites have a dual H & V omni setup. >> It mostly works, but I do not recommend it. The typical omni problem, >> interference from everywhere. >> >> But like Steve said, once our power co turns up their grid, I fully >> expect 900 to be worthless. I guess we'll see. >> >> On 11/30/2017 11:27 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >> >> My worry is if I deploy it that 5-6 years down the road we will be in the >> same boat now of trying to find another solution to get the bandwidth to >> the customers because by then they will be all wanting faster than what the >> 900mhz can do just like the same problem we have now. >> >> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> if you are in the US, the "smart grid" is coming to help you by >>> answering your questions for you >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So I have 2% of my customer base that is running 900mhz PMP100 using 11 >>>> different access points. I am trying to cost justify weather it is feasible >>>> to upgrade them to PMP450i-900mhz. I am using a lot of Omni's with the >>>> PMP100 so most likely I will need twice as many AP's as I currently have >>>> because they won't all be on the same side of the towers. So looking at >>>> costs I see the following: >>>> >>>> PMP450i AP's x 20 = $46,000 >>>> 900mhz sectors x 20 = $6,320 >>>> PMP450 SM x 20 = $4,784 >>>> SM antenna x 20 = $1,424 >>>> >>>> equipment cost total = $58,528 >>>> plus my time of putting it all up >>>> >>>> I am currently grossing $934.00/month from the 2% of customers running >>>> on the PMP100-900mhz now. >>>> >>>> At this rate it would take 5 years to break even on deploying the >>>> 450i-900mhz and I really can't offer any better speeds with it than what I >>>> was able to offer with the old FSK 2.4/5ghz stuff. >>>> >>>> Is it just me or does this not make sense worth deploying? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
