But this zero tolerance/scorched earth chicken house effect does not care
about law. If some Hollywood type put the make on some starlet 40 years ago
there seems to be a concerted effort to end their career. Same for
politicians.
In my world, women never had a problem in letting me know if I was making
them feel uncomfortable. At least that is my recollection. But I was never
in a position of power or authority. Just some pimply faced kid trying to
get lucky. I cannot imagine the difficulty for the attractive young woman
trying to make her way in acting or business or politics and getting a
boorish dude pushing himself on her. It is a tough problem that has existed
for as long as humans have existed.
I saw some quote from some starlet this week about one of these guys that
was a particularly bad actor (as in he forced himself on many). She said
"every time I would spend the night at his house he would rape me". OK, is
there a problem in simply not sleeping over where you always get raped. Fool
me once...
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Isn't this why there are statutes of limitations of laws?
On 12/7/17 8:38 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I watched Dustin Hoffman get ambushed on a news show the other day. The
guy doing the questioning was grilling him on stuff that supposedly
happened 40 years ago.
Who is the same person they were 40 years ago?
Is there to be any allowance for increased wisdom, growing up, learning,
changes of attitudes?
Is there to be any allowance for the era or environment in which the
offense happened?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:09 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode called "Nosedive"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
It's available on Netflix.
Basically, scoring on social media gets used for everything. The prices
you pay for services, whether you're allowed into a condo, whether you get
to have and keep a job, how the police treat you. I get the impression
that it's not codified as law, just a fact of the presence of social media
and ubiquitous access to it. Basically the Facebook distopia. It's a
good episode....and a good series in general.
------ Original Message ------
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 12/7/2017 10:56:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Maybe they could start with China’s citizenship score essentially ranking
everyone’s behavior.
*From:* Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:54 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Facebook and Google already have all the data of your
likes/dislikes/beliefs (even one's you are not sure of). Seems like the
next logical step would be a compatibility matrix. You are only allowed
to interact with a potential date if you have >90% compatibility.
Otherwise your advances would be moot, and therefore unwanted. Proximity
devices would allow you to go into a club, and see all potential matches
nearby. As you approach, their name badge would either turn green or
red. If you get too close to a Red, it will start flashing, thereby
alerting all close by to be on the lookout for potential harassing
behavior.
On 12/7/2017 9:46 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Yeah. Parse these two statements, and how they might come across
verbally.
Don't! Stop!
Don't stop!
bp
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On 12/7/2017 7:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
All young men trying to get a date could be classified as a predator.
There is the prey and the predator. It is a matter degree. Unwanted
attention, unwanted proximity, unwanted touching. Until the girl
decided the kid is OK then the playing hard to get games morphs into
no=yes and so forth.
Is a kid screwing up his courage to go in for a kiss at the end of a
date risking becoming a criminal?
Hitting a good looking woman is now considered sexual predation.
NPR had a good example. Good looking woman at a party. George Clooney
and Steve Buscemi both hit on her at different times. Both use the
exact same words. Perhaps different deliveries but the exact same
words. The woman is mesmerized by the attention by George and feels
harassed by Buscemi.
How can you codify how people are supposed to behave?
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:29 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
All sexual predators...from Top to bottom, regardless of party, should
be pecked to death...I have four daughters. That Alabama pedophile
would have disappeared. End of story.
Jaime Solorza
On Dec 6, 2017 8:26 PM, "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
wrote:
I feel bad for that guy. hes about to get his rectum widened and
not so much as mcdouble with cheese for dinner
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Craig House
<[email protected]> wrote:
Al Franken = injured chicken LOL
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:15:10 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] OT slightly political
One of my aunts married a guy that had a small factory
farm. He raised fryers. Those chickens you get at KFC. They
were allowed to run around in a very large room.
Thousands of them per room, maybe tens of thousands. He
had lots of buildings with rooms like that.
There was this tiny conveyer of chicken feed (maybe 3 inches
wide) that snaked round the room so they were never farther
than a dozen steps from food. I think it took 6 or 8 weeks
from hatching before they were ready for market.
Toward the end of their existence they would get so heavy
they would just park and the conveyer and not really move. I
don’t recall
how they got water (this was 50 years ago).
If one got injured somehow, perhaps getting something caught
in the conveyer or whatever, if there was a single spot of
blood, the other chickens would notice and in short order
peck the injured chicken to death. Even a dot of red ink
was enough. They would pile on and do them in.
I see some parallels. Humans are chickens sometimes.
