What I want to know is why ron jeremy isnt stepping down after the
allegations against him

I wont be suprised if franken commits suicide btw

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am wondering if this is going to lead to a resurgence in "the old boys
> club" with a vengeance.
>
> I have seen young women get fired for cause only to make an unfounded
> claim - after the fact - of sexual harassment.
> Makes it harder to want to hire the next young woman.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 10:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>
> Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.   This is the
> beginning/middle of the McCarthy era all over again, but as with all
> things in the modern social media age, greatly sped up.   Will we get to
> congressional hearings?   Doesn't seem to require it to get the "job"
> done...
>
> On 12/7/17 9:08 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> An actor turned politician just threw his political career away to
>> further a scorched earth agenda. Zero due process, all to bypass the
>> protections given to us by our founding fathers in an attempt to get a
>> political one up for "the party"
>>
>> We will never know the extent of guilt because due process was bypassed
>>
>> Constituents were screwed
>>
>> This is a bad bad path we are on
>>
>> There is nothing to stop a competitor from popping and and saying any one
>> of you male small business owners did something 25 years ago, the precedent
>> is there to destroy your company before the words "i didnt do it" even pass
>> your lips
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:03 AM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     But this zero tolerance/scorched earth chicken house effect does not
>>     care about law.  If some Hollywood type put the make on some starlet
>>     40 years ago there seems to be a concerted effort to end their
>>     career.  Same for politicians.
>>
>>     In my world, women never had a problem in letting me know if I was
>>     making them feel uncomfortable.  At least that is my recollection.
>> But I was never in a position of power or authority.  Just some
>>     pimply faced kid trying to get lucky.  I cannot imagine the
>>     difficulty for the attractive young woman trying to make her way in
>>     acting or business or politics and getting a boorish dude pushing
>>     himself on her.  It is a tough problem that has existed for as long
>>     as humans have existed.
>>
>>     I saw some quote from some starlet this week about one of these guys
>>     that was a particularly bad actor (as in he forced himself on
>>     many).  She said "every time I would spend the night at his house he
>>     would rape me".  OK, is there a problem in simply not sleeping over
>>     where you always get raped. Fool me once...
>>
>>     -----Original Message----- From: Robert
>>     Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:49 AM
>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>
>>     Isn't this why there are statutes of limitations of laws?
>>
>>     On 12/7/17 8:38 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>         I watched Dustin Hoffman get ambushed on a news show the other
>>         day. The guy doing the questioning was grilling him on stuff
>>         that supposedly happened 40 years ago.
>>         Who is the same person they were 40 years ago?
>>         Is there to be any allowance for increased wisdom, growing up,
>>         learning, changes of attitudes?
>>         Is there to be any allowance for the era or environment in which
>>         the offense happened?
>>         *From:* Adam Moffett
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:09 AM
>>         *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>         Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode called "Nosedive"
>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
>>         <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive>
>>         It's available on Netflix.
>>         Basically, scoring on social media gets used for everything. The
>> prices you pay for services, whether you're allowed into a
>>         condo, whether you get to have and keep a job, how the police
>>         treat you.  I get the impression that it's not codified as law,
>>         just a fact of the presence of social media and ubiquitous
>>         access to it.  Basically the Facebook distopia.  It's a good
>>         episode....and a good series in general.
>>         ------ Original Message ------
>>         From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         Sent: 12/7/2017 10:56:23 AM
>>         Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>
>>             Maybe they could start with China’s citizenship score
>>             essentially ranking everyone’s behavior.
>>             *From:* Nate Burke
>>             *Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:54 AM
>>             *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>             Facebook and Google already have all the data of your
>>             likes/dislikes/beliefs (even one's you are not sure of).
>> Seems like the next logical step would be a compatibility
>>             matrix.  You are only allowed to interact with a potential
>>             date if you have >90% compatibility. Otherwise your advances
>>             would be moot, and therefore unwanted.  Proximity devices
>>             would allow you to go into a club, and see all potential
>>             matches nearby.  As you approach, their name badge would
>>             either turn green or red.  If you get too close to a Red, it
>>             will start flashing, thereby alerting all close by to be on
>>             the lookout for potential harassing behavior.
>>
>>             On 12/7/2017 9:46 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>>                 Yeah. Parse these two statements, and how they might
>>                 come across verbally.
>>
>>                 Don't! Stop!
>>
>>                 Don't stop!
>>
>>                 bp
>>                 <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>                 On 12/7/2017 7:44 AM, [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>                     All young men trying to get a date could be
>>                     classified as a predator. There is the prey and the
>>                     predator.  It is a matter degree.  Unwanted
>>                     attention, unwanted proximity, unwanted touching.
>> Until the girl decided the kid is OK then the
>>                     playing hard to get games morphs into no=yes and so
>>                     forth.
>>                     Is a kid screwing up his courage to go in for a kiss
>>                     at the end of a date risking becoming a criminal?
>>                     Hitting a good looking woman is now considered
>>                     sexual predation.
>>                     NPR had a good example.  Good looking woman at a
>>                     party. George Clooney and Steve Buscemi both hit on
>>                     her at different times. Both use the exact same
>>                     words.  Perhaps different deliveries but the exact
>>                     same words.  The woman is mesmerized by the
>>                     attention by George and feels harassed by Buscemi.
>>                     How can you codify how people are supposed to behave?
>>                     *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>                     *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:29 PM
>>                     *To:* Animal Farm
>>                     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>                     All sexual predators...from Top to bottom,
>>                     regardless of party, should be pecked to death...I
>>                     have four daughters.  That Alabama pedophile would
>>                     have disappeared.  End of story.
>>
>>                     Jaime Solorza
>>                     On Dec 6, 2017 8:26 PM, "Steve Jones"
>>                     <[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                          I feel bad for that guy. hes about to get his
>>                     rectum widened and
>>                          not so much as mcdouble with cheese for dinner
>>                          On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Craig House
>>                          <[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                              Al Franken = injured chicken   LOL
>>                             ------------------------------
>> ------------------------------------------
>>                              *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                              *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                              *Sent: *Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:15:10
>> PM
>>                              *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>                              One of my aunts married a guy that had a
>>                     small factory
>>                              farm.  He raised fryers.  Those chickens
>>                     you get at KFC. They were allowed to run around in a
>>                     very large room.
>>                              Thousands of them per room, maybe tens of
>>                     thousands.   He
>>                              had lots of buildings with rooms like that.
>>                              There was this tiny conveyer of chicken
>>                     feed (maybe 3 inches
>>                              wide) that snaked round the room so they
>>                     were never farther
>>                              than a dozen steps from food.  I think it
>>                     took 6 or 8 weeks
>>                              from hatching before they were ready for
>>                     market.
>>                              Toward the end of their existence they
>>                     would get so heavy
>>                              they would just park and the conveyer and
>>                     not really move. I don’t recall
>>                              how they got water (this was 50 years ago).
>>                              If one got injured somehow, perhaps getting
>>                     something caught
>>                              in the conveyer or whatever, if there was a
>>                     single spot of
>>                              blood, the other chickens would notice and
>>                     in short order
>>                              peck the injured chicken to death.  Even a
>>                     dot of red ink
>>                              was enough.  They would pile on and do them
>> in.
>>                              I see some parallels.  Humans are chickens
>>                     sometimes.
>>
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