An actor turned politician just threw his political career away to
further a scorched earth agenda. Zero due process, all to bypass the
protections given to us by our founding fathers in an attempt to get a
political one up for "the party"
We will never know the extent of guilt because due process was bypassed
Constituents were screwed
This is a bad bad path we are on
There is nothing to stop a competitor from popping and and saying any
one of you male small business owners did something 25 years ago, the
precedent is there to destroy your company before the words "i didnt do
it" even pass your lips
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:03 AM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
But this zero tolerance/scorched earth chicken house effect does not
care about law. If some Hollywood type put the make on some starlet
40 years ago there seems to be a concerted effort to end their
career. Same for politicians.
In my world, women never had a problem in letting me know if I was
making them feel uncomfortable. At least that is my recollection.
But I was never in a position of power or authority. Just some
pimply faced kid trying to get lucky. I cannot imagine the
difficulty for the attractive young woman trying to make her way in
acting or business or politics and getting a boorish dude pushing
himself on her. It is a tough problem that has existed for as long
as humans have existed.
I saw some quote from some starlet this week about one of these guys
that was a particularly bad actor (as in he forced himself on
many). She said "every time I would spend the night at his house he
would rape me". OK, is there a problem in simply not sleeping over
where you always get raped. Fool me once...
-----Original Message----- From: Robert
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:49 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Isn't this why there are statutes of limitations of laws?
On 12/7/17 8:38 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I watched Dustin Hoffman get ambushed on a news show the other
day. The guy doing the questioning was grilling him on stuff
that supposedly happened 40 years ago.
Who is the same person they were 40 years ago?
Is there to be any allowance for increased wisdom, growing up,
learning, changes of attitudes?
Is there to be any allowance for the era or environment in which
the offense happened?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:09 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode called "Nosedive"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive>
It's available on Netflix.
Basically, scoring on social media gets used for everything.
The prices you pay for services, whether you're allowed into a
condo, whether you get to have and keep a job, how the police
treat you. I get the impression that it's not codified as law,
just a fact of the presence of social media and ubiquitous
access to it. Basically the Facebook distopia. It's a good
episode....and a good series in general.
------ Original Message ------
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 12/7/2017 10:56:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Maybe they could start with China’s citizenship score
essentially ranking everyone’s behavior.
*From:* Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:54 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
Facebook and Google already have all the data of your
likes/dislikes/beliefs (even one's you are not sure of).
Seems like the next logical step would be a compatibility
matrix. You are only allowed to interact with a potential
date if you have >90% compatibility. Otherwise your advances
would be moot, and therefore unwanted. Proximity devices
would allow you to go into a club, and see all potential
matches nearby. As you approach, their name badge would
either turn green or red. If you get too close to a Red, it
will start flashing, thereby alerting all close by to be on
the lookout for potential harassing behavior.
On 12/7/2017 9:46 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Yeah. Parse these two statements, and how they might
come across verbally.
Don't! Stop!
Don't stop!
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 12/7/2017 7:44 AM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
All young men trying to get a date could be
classified as a predator. There is the prey and the
predator. It is a matter degree. Unwanted
attention, unwanted proximity, unwanted touching.
Until the girl decided the kid is OK then the
playing hard to get games morphs into no=yes and so
forth.
Is a kid screwing up his courage to go in for a kiss
at the end of a date risking becoming a criminal?
Hitting a good looking woman is now considered
sexual predation.
NPR had a good example. Good looking woman at a
party. George Clooney and Steve Buscemi both hit on
her at different times. Both use the exact same
words. Perhaps different deliveries but the exact
same words. The woman is mesmerized by the
attention by George and feels harassed by Buscemi.
How can you codify how people are supposed to behave?
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:29 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
All sexual predators...from Top to bottom,
regardless of party, should be pecked to death...I
have four daughters. That Alabama pedophile would
have disappeared. End of story.
Jaime Solorza
On Dec 6, 2017 8:26 PM, "Steve Jones"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I feel bad for that guy. hes about to get his
rectum widened and
not so much as mcdouble with cheese for dinner
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Craig House
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Al Franken = injured chicken LOL
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:15:10 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] OT slightly political
One of my aunts married a guy that had a
small factory
farm. He raised fryers. Those chickens
you get at KFC. They were allowed to run around in a
very large room.
Thousands of them per room, maybe tens of
thousands. He
had lots of buildings with rooms like that.
There was this tiny conveyer of chicken
feed (maybe 3 inches
wide) that snaked round the room so they
were never farther
than a dozen steps from food. I think it
took 6 or 8 weeks
from hatching before they were ready for
market.
Toward the end of their existence they
would get so heavy
they would just park and the conveyer and
not really move. I don’t recall
how they got water (this was 50 years ago).
If one got injured somehow, perhaps getting
something caught
in the conveyer or whatever, if there was a
single spot of
blood, the other chickens would notice and
in short order
peck the injured chicken to death. Even a
dot of red ink
was enough. They would pile on and do them in.
I see some parallels. Humans are chickens
sometimes.
