An actor turned politician just threw his political career away to further
a scorched earth agenda. Zero due process, all to bypass the protections
given to us by our founding fathers in an attempt to get a political one up
for "the party"

We will never know the extent of guilt because due process was bypassed

Constituents were screwed

This is a bad bad path we are on

There is nothing to stop a competitor from popping and and saying any one
of you male small business owners did something 25 years ago, the precedent
is there to destroy your company before the words "i didnt do it" even pass
your lips

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> But this zero tolerance/scorched earth chicken house effect does not care
> about law.  If some Hollywood type put the make on some starlet 40 years
> ago there seems to be a concerted effort to end their career.  Same for
> politicians.
>
> In my world, women never had a problem in letting me know if I was making
> them feel uncomfortable.  At least that is my recollection.  But I was
> never in a position of power or authority.  Just some pimply faced kid
> trying to get lucky.  I cannot imagine the difficulty for the attractive
> young woman trying to make her way in acting or business or politics and
> getting a boorish dude pushing himself on her.  It is a tough problem that
> has existed for as long as humans have existed.
>
> I saw some quote from some starlet this week about one of these guys that
> was a particularly bad actor (as in he forced himself on many).  She said
> "every time I would spend the night at his house he would rape me".  OK, is
> there a problem in simply not sleeping over where you always get raped.
> Fool me once...
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:49 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>
> Isn't this why there are statutes of limitations of laws?
>
> On 12/7/17 8:38 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I watched Dustin Hoffman get ambushed on a news show the other day. The
>> guy doing the questioning was grilling him on stuff that supposedly
>> happened 40 years ago.
>> Who is the same person they were 40 years ago?
>> Is there to be any allowance for increased wisdom, growing up, learning,
>> changes of attitudes?
>> Is there to be any allowance for the era or environment in which the
>> offense happened?
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:09 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>> Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode called "Nosedive"
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
>> It's available on Netflix.
>> Basically, scoring on social media gets used for everything.  The prices
>> you pay for services, whether you're allowed into a condo, whether you get
>> to have and keep a job, how the police treat you.  I get the impression
>> that it's not codified as law, just a fact of the presence of social media
>> and ubiquitous access to it.  Basically the Facebook distopia.  It's a good
>> episode....and a good series in general.
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: 12/7/2017 10:56:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>
>>> Maybe they could start with China’s citizenship score essentially
>>> ranking everyone’s behavior.
>>> *From:* Nate Burke
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:54 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>> Facebook and Google already have all the data of your
>>> likes/dislikes/beliefs (even one's you are not sure of).  Seems like the
>>> next logical step would be a compatibility matrix.  You are only allowed to
>>> interact with a potential date if you have >90% compatibility. Otherwise
>>> your advances would be moot, and therefore unwanted.  Proximity devices
>>> would allow you to go into a club, and see all potential matches nearby.
>>> As you approach, their name badge would either turn green or red.  If you
>>> get too close to a Red, it will start flashing, thereby alerting all close
>>> by to be on the lookout for potential harassing behavior.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/2017 9:46 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. Parse these two statements, and how they might come across
>>>> verbally.
>>>>
>>>> Don't! Stop!
>>>>
>>>> Don't stop!
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/2017 7:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All young men trying to get a date could be classified as a predator.
>>>>> There is the prey and the predator.  It is a matter degree.  Unwanted
>>>>> attention, unwanted proximity, unwanted touching.   Until the girl decided
>>>>> the kid is OK then the playing hard to get games morphs into no=yes and so
>>>>> forth.
>>>>> Is a kid screwing up his courage to go in for a kiss at the end of a
>>>>> date risking becoming a criminal?
>>>>> Hitting a good looking woman is now considered sexual predation.
>>>>> NPR had a good example.  Good looking woman at a party. George Clooney
>>>>> and Steve Buscemi both hit on her at different times. Both use the exact
>>>>> same words.  Perhaps different deliveries but the exact same words.  The
>>>>> woman is mesmerized by the attention by George and feels harassed by
>>>>> Buscemi.
>>>>> How can you codify how people are supposed to behave?
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:29 PM
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>>>> All sexual predators...from Top to bottom, regardless of party, should
>>>>> be pecked to death...I have four daughters.  That Alabama pedophile would
>>>>> have disappeared.  End of story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017 8:26 PM, "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     I feel bad for that guy. hes about to get his rectum widened and
>>>>>     not so much as mcdouble with cheese for dinner
>>>>>     On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Craig House
>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Al Franken = injured chicken   LOL
>>>>>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------
>>>>>         *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>>>>         *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>         *Sent: *Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:15:10 PM
>>>>>         *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT slightly political
>>>>>         One of my aunts married a guy that had a small factory
>>>>>         farm.  He raised fryers.  Those chickens you get at KFC. They
>>>>> were allowed to run around in a very large room.
>>>>>         Thousands of them per room, maybe tens of thousands.   He
>>>>>         had lots of buildings with rooms like that.
>>>>>         There was this tiny conveyer of chicken feed (maybe 3 inches
>>>>>         wide) that snaked round the room so they were never farther
>>>>>         than a dozen steps from food.  I think it took 6 or 8 weeks
>>>>>         from hatching before they were ready for market.
>>>>>         Toward the end of their existence they would get so heavy
>>>>>         they would just park and the conveyer and not really move. I
>>>>> don’t recall
>>>>>         how they got water (this was 50 years ago).
>>>>>         If one got injured somehow, perhaps getting something caught
>>>>>         in the conveyer or whatever, if there was a single spot of
>>>>>         blood, the other chickens would notice and in short order
>>>>>         peck the injured chicken to death.  Even a dot of red ink
>>>>>         was enough.  They would pile on and do them in.
>>>>>         I see some parallels.  Humans are chickens sometimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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