One of our tech support guys asked me yesterday if we're going to start charging for access to Facebook, Netflix, etc. I was just like, dude, seriously? Yeah, cuz that will surely get us customers. He said, but now we can, so why wouldn't we? I said, but did we before NN? And then I realized he was just trying to annoy me. Same shit the media is doing. FUD dbag tactics. IT'S A TRAP!

On 12/15/2017 2:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Exactly.  I literally see people suggesting that ISP's will charge for access to Facebook or charge for access to Netflix.  Not. Going. To. Happen.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 12/15/2017 3:57:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment

Yeah, true, there were ways to legally do it before if you really wanted to. Bbut more to the point, nobody is going to do something like that anyway, because there's no way that it would be worth the customer backlash they'd have to deal with.

Nah, nobody is going to have the sense to feel silly about it... they'll just keep whining for awhile, and then forget about it. Or else, they'll find something that's completely unrelated that they don't like and blame it on the lack of NN.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    You would have to justify that as "reasonable network
    management".  They defined reasonable network management as being
    driven by technical reasons rather than business reasons
    (paraphrased). Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying.

    The bigger loophole I saw was that transit providers were
    excluded from all the rules.
    Put an AS in between you and your upstream who just does
    filtering for you.  They're a transit provider so they have no NN
    rules.

    It was very frustrating to witness all the crazy theories about
    what would happen.  I wonder if anyone will have the sense to
    feel silly about pontificating on Facebook when absolutely
    nothing changes.


    ------ Original Message ------
    From: "Dennis Burgess" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Sent: 12/15/2017 3:43:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment

    NN did not disallow you to block facebook, just have to disclose
    it. JSo it really did’ent do anything.

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    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
    *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 3:24 PM
    *To:* af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Our NN statment

    Awesome! I think I'll go block Facebook, and see how that goes...

    On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Steve Jones
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/12/15/net_neutrality_s_end_was_mostly_celebrated_by_the_far_right.html
        
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/12/15/net_neutrality_s_end_was_mostly_celebrated_by_the_far_right.html>

        Apparently now we ISPs can lawfully block individual sites
        and will do so with impunity.

        These people with these petty ideas I dont think understand
        how poorly granularity scales.

        On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Josh Baird
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I like this as well.  I was thinking it would be a good
            idea to put out a statement..

            On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Paul McCall
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Yep, that is concise and effective

                *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
                A. Villarini
                *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 7:57 AM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] Our NN statment

                What do you guys think? Lots of customers calling!

                Aeronet Statement on Net Neutrality

                AeroNet, a ISP that provides advanced Internet
                services to Business and individuals in PR, USVI and
                Miami, applauds any action taken  that promotes
                 innovation and advancement of connectivity for all
                consumers. In Aeronet’s  17 years of history, our
                pricing structure has always been simple, unlimited
                and without any toll gates. The placement and
                removal of Net Neutrality rules have not and will
                not modify our pricing policy.  We maintain our
                commitment to provide the fastest and most reliable
                service to our customers, with innovative solutions
                that fulfill our customers needs.

                /*Gino A. Villarini*/

                President

                Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto
                Rico 00968



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