What are you using?  Router NAT or a server or ?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics and 
have little to no issue, though we really should since the customer router 
double NATs

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is needed 
to make it work properly.

  We currently have about 3 /21s I think.  Don’t want to have to buy a fourth.  

  From: Dennis Burgess 
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

  Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two /21s to 
less than 254 ips .:) 





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  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
  Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again



  Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single public 
IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k ports each, 32 
customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're not limited to 8k, 
4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both directions. 
10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.8.8:53 and 10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.4.4:53 mappings are 
both valid, and it obviously goes a lot deeper than that.

  Seems to be a whole lot easier than some crazy NAT appliance that's running 
the whole network. I haven't done anything like this, but I'm considering it. I 
think Juniper even lets you do this with a couple commands? Yeah, I'm too cheap 
for that.

  Something else to keep in mind is that most consumer grade routers still have 
a fairly limited connection table. My Cambium cnPilot router I have at home 
lets you adjust the max table size (up to 8192). Most are 2k or 4k. While even 
a low-end MikroTik will give you >100k.

  On 1/15/2018 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing .... again ......

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    So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company. 

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    Seems like I am going in reverse here.

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    If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time to 
build our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only network.� 

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    Any suggestions on the best way to do this?



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