We have a very large operator around here that basically monopolizes the band, but has zero CPEs registered. So I refuse to do it as well, not posting my customer locations for their consumption when they will not do the same, especially when theirs probably outnumber mine 30-1. I'm not really a fan of this band due to interference, but thanks to Baicells I have actually gotten it to be usable for the first time since I've had the license - which is about as long as anyone.
On Monday, April 2, 2018, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Because it's currently illegal to operate a 3.65ghz radio without a > license... but it's also against the rules to operate a radio that's not > registered, and most people don't seem care too much about that, so I'm not > really sure why they bother with the license. > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:40 PM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So what was the purpose of purchasing licenses today? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish >> *Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2018 2:06 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration >> >> >> >> Actually, to get grandfathering protection when the CBRS band opens up, >> you had to re-register in a new "clean" database by August 7th, 2016. Here >> is a list of those who obtained Grandfathering Protection. >> https://opendata.fcc.gov/Wireless/ULS-3650-Locations- >> Default-View/dpvg-tvcx >> >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> >> ---------[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]--------- >> >> Rick Harnish >> >> >> >> Director of WISP Markets >> >> >> >> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/> >> >> Mobile: (260) 307-4000 >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> www.facebook.com/baicells >> >> >> >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> >> >> ---------[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]--------- >> >> Rick Harnish >> >> >> >> Director of WISP Markets >> >> >> >> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/> >> >> Mobile: (260) 307-4000 >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> www.facebook.com/baicells >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2018 10:29 AM >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration >> >> >> >> If you do an ABAB channel plan, you can do four sectors per tower on >> 20mhz channels using GPS sync, but that pretty much gives you no room to >> work with if you into interference, so in practice, more using larger that >> 10mhz channels probably isn't going to be realistic long term for most of >> us. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 50Mhz is not a lot of room for even 2 providers in a county wide area. >> Because customer wants 4k tv to work so either 15mhz or 20mhz wide >> channel spacing is needed how many channels can be squeezed out of that >> including reuse with gps? >> Scaling can become a major problem as well for both neighbors. Just >> another band turned to crap after everyone becomes a wisp in your area. >> >> Medusa save us from the nether regions of UHD4k LOL >> >> On 04/01/2018 11:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> The problem is that it was impractical to register every subscriber >> location. I registered 60 locations one night and it took me several >> hours. There was no way I was going to invest that much labor into >> registrations. They needed both a bulk registration method and to make >> their registration page respond faster. >> >> >> >> >> >> That said, I have had coordination conversations with another >> registrant. It was friendly, but it was only marginally productive. We >> were not able to agree on TDD ratios or a plan for dividing the available >> 50mhz, so basically we kept doing our own thing and resolving interference >> cases individually as they came up. It sounds like some of you have bad >> neighbors. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >> >> To: "af" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: 3/31/2018 9:48:52 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration >> >> >> >> From what I've seen, most people are just registering every radio for the >> entire 50mhz, so it's not like you can use the information in the database >> to actually coordinate anything (and I think that really is the best option >> in the current climate, since there's a good chance your going to have to >> change channels at some point because of newcomers to the area)... then >> there are also the people that never bother to register anything, or >> register a few radios and then give up because it's too much work... >> >> >> >> I'm aware of at least four other companies in our general area that have >> AP/base stations registered, but last I checked only one of them had any >> customer locations registered... for some reason, a lot of people seem to >> be under the Impression that you only need to register the AP (or eNB, in >> LTE speak), but that's not the case and never was - everything is supposed >> to be registered (there is an exception for mobile devices, but that >> doesn't apply to anything a WISP would be using). >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:05 PM, David Coudron < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> You need to register the stations, but there is no requirement to >> coordinate. However, depending on how many folks are in your area it >> still might be a good idea to make sure they are up to date on all their >> registrations. Sometimes we find folks don’t always update their >> information on the FCC site and you can still run into interference. If >> there are too many folks in the area, it is easier to find open channels >> and then register. >> >> >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:57 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration >> >> >> >> I have a NN license but have never used it, what is the best >> practice/process for registering a base when you have other operators with >> bases registered nearby? Do you need to coordinate anything? >> >> >> >> I'm looking at deploying in a small town but 2-3 other operators have >> bases already registered in the area, can I still deploy? Obviously need to >> do a SA before anything.... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> TJ >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >
