So what was the purpose of purchasing licenses today?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 2:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration


Actually, to get grandfathering protection when the CBRS band opens up, you had 
to re-register in a new "clean" database by August 7th, 2016.  Here is a list 
of those who obtained Grandfathering Protection.  
https://opendata.fcc.gov/Wireless/ULS-3650-Locations-Default-View/dpvg-tvcx


Respectfully,

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Respectfully,

---------[BaiCells_Tiny3]---------
Rick Harnish

Director of WISP Markets

Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.<https://na.baicells.com/>
Mobile:  (260) 307-4000

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 10:29 AM
To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration

If you do an ABAB channel plan, you can do four sectors per tower on 20mhz 
channels using GPS sync, but that pretty much gives you no room to work with if 
you into interference, so in practice, more using larger that 10mhz channels 
probably isn't going to be realistic long term for most of us.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dave 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
50Mhz is not a lot of room for even 2 providers in a county wide area. Because 
customer wants 4k tv to work so either 15mhz or 20mhz wide
channel spacing is needed how many channels can be squeezed out of that 
including reuse with gps?
Scaling can become a major problem as well for both neighbors. Just another 
band turned to crap after everyone becomes a wisp in your area.

Medusa save us from the nether regions of UHD4k LOL
On 04/01/2018 11:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The problem is that it was impractical to register every subscriber location.  
I registered 60 locations one night and it took me several hours.  There was no 
way I was going to invest that much labor into registrations.  They needed both 
a bulk registration method and to make their registration page respond faster.


That said, I have had coordination conversations with another registrant.  It 
was friendly, but it was only marginally productive.  We were not able to agree 
on TDD ratios or a plan for dividing the available 50mhz, so basically we kept 
doing our own thing and resolving interference cases individually as they came 
up.  It sounds like some of you have bad neighbors.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
To: "af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 3/31/2018 9:48:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration

From what I've seen, most people are just registering every radio for the 
entire 50mhz, so it's not like you can use the information in the database to 
actually coordinate anything (and I think that really is the best option in the 
current climate, since there's a good chance your going to have to change 
channels at some point because of newcomers to the area)... then there are also 
the people that never bother to register anything, or register a few radios and 
then give up because it's too much work...

I'm aware of at least four other companies in our general area that have 
AP/base stations registered, but last I checked only one of them had any 
customer locations registered... for some reason, a lot of people seem to be 
under the Impression that you only need to register the AP (or eNB, in LTE 
speak), but that's not the case and never was - everything is supposed to be 
registered (there is an exception for mobile devices, but that doesn't apply to 
anything a WISP would be using).

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:05 PM, David Coudron 
<david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
You need to register the stations, but there is no requirement to coordinate.   
However, depending on how many folks are in your area it still might be a good 
idea to make sure they are up to date on all their registrations.   Sometimes 
we find folks don’t always update their information on the FCC site and you can 
still run into interference.   If there are too many folks in the area, it is 
easier to find open channels and then register.


David Coudron



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of TJ 
Trout
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration

I have a NN license but have never used it, what is the best practice/process 
for registering a base when you have other operators with bases registered 
nearby? Do you need to coordinate anything?

I'm looking at deploying in a small town but 2-3 other operators have bases 
already registered in the area, can I still deploy? Obviously need to do a SA 
before anything....

Thanks,

TJ


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