Correct Mathew. If any changes are made to the equipment on the tower, you lose grandfathering protection. Makes no sense at all. You have to keep Wimax equipment up or lose protection.
Respectfully, ------------------ Rick Harnish Director of WISP Markets <https://na.baicells.com/> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. Mobile: (260) 307-4000 <mailto:rick.harn...@na.baicells.com> rick.harn...@na.baicells.com <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> www.facebook.com/baicells From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 5:21 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration the grandfathering protection was probably overrated anyway, since, as far as I know, it only applied to gear that was in the air already at that point... we have very little, if any, 3.65ghz stuff still active that was at the time - the vast majority of what we have was added after that point anyway. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Rick Harnish <rick.harn...@baicells.com <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com> > wrote: Actually, to get grandfathering protection when the CBRS band opens up, you had to re-register in a new "clean" database by August 7th, 2016. Here is a list of those who obtained Grandfathering Protection. https://opendata.fcc.gov/Wireless/ULS-3650-Locations-Default-View/dpvg-tvcx Respectfully, ------------------ Rick Harnish Director of WISP Markets Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/> Mobile: (260) 307-4000 <tel:(260)%20307-4000> rick.harn...@na.baicells.com <mailto:rick.harn...@na.baicells.com> www.facebook.com/baicells <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> Respectfully, ------------------ Rick Harnish Director of WISP Markets <https://na.baicells.com/> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. Mobile: (260) 307-4000 <tel:(260)%20307-4000> <mailto:rick.harn...@na.baicells.com> rick.harn...@na.baicells.com <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> www.facebook.com/baicells From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 10:29 AM To: af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration If you do an ABAB channel plan, you can do four sectors per tower on 20mhz channels using GPS sync, but that pretty much gives you no room to work with if you into interference, so in practice, more using larger that 10mhz channels probably isn't going to be realistic long term for most of us. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> > wrote: 50Mhz is not a lot of room for even 2 providers in a county wide area. Because customer wants 4k tv to work so either 15mhz or 20mhz wide channel spacing is needed how many channels can be squeezed out of that including reuse with gps? Scaling can become a major problem as well for both neighbors. Just another band turned to crap after everyone becomes a wisp in your area. Medusa save us from the nether regions of UHD4k LOL On 04/01/2018 11:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: The problem is that it was impractical to register every subscriber location. I registered 60 locations one night and it took me several hours. There was no way I was going to invest that much labor into registrations. They needed both a bulk registration method and to make their registration page respond faster. That said, I have had coordination conversations with another registrant. It was friendly, but it was only marginally productive. We were not able to agree on TDD ratios or a plan for dividing the available 50mhz, so basically we kept doing our own thing and resolving interference cases individually as they came up. It sounds like some of you have bad neighbors. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: 3/31/2018 9:48:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration >From what I've seen, most people are just registering every radio for the >entire 50mhz, so it's not like you can use the information in the database to >actually coordinate anything (and I think that really is the best option in >the current climate, since there's a good chance your going to have to change >channels at some point because of newcomers to the area)... then there are >also the people that never bother to register anything, or register a few >radios and then give up because it's too much work... I'm aware of at least four other companies in our general area that have AP/base stations registered, but last I checked only one of them had any customer locations registered... for some reason, a lot of people seem to be under the Impression that you only need to register the AP (or eNB, in LTE speak), but that's not the case and never was - everything is supposed to be registered (there is an exception for mobile devices, but that doesn't apply to anything a WISP would be using). On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:05 PM, David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> > wrote: You need to register the stations, but there is no requirement to coordinate. However, depending on how many folks are in your area it still might be a good idea to make sure they are up to date on all their registrations. Sometimes we find folks don’t always update their information on the FCC site and you can still run into interference. If there are too many folks in the area, it is easier to find open channels and then register. David Coudron From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:57 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration I have a NN license but have never used it, what is the best practice/process for registering a base when you have other operators with bases registered nearby? Do you need to coordinate anything? I'm looking at deploying in a small town but 2-3 other operators have bases already registered in the area, can I still deploy? Obviously need to do a SA before anything.... Thanks, TJ --
