im guessing just prior to the new rules going into effect, the fcc will hammer every illegal operator out there to clean house, that will be a joyous day.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > So what was the purpose of purchasing licenses today? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish > *Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2018 2:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration > > > > Actually, to get grandfathering protection when the CBRS band opens up, > you had to re-register in a new "clean" database by August 7th, 2016. Here > is a list of those who obtained Grandfathering Protection. > https://opendata.fcc.gov/Wireless/ULS-3650-Locations- > Default-View/dpvg-tvcx > > > > Respectfully, > > > > ---------[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]--------- > > Rick Harnish > > > > Director of WISP Markets > > > > Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/> > > Mobile: (260) 307-4000 > > > > rick.harn...@na.baicells.com > > www.facebook.com/baicells > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > ---------[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]--------- > > Rick Harnish > > > > Director of WISP Markets > > > > Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/> > > Mobile: (260) 307-4000 > > > > rick.harn...@na.baicells.com > > www.facebook.com/baicells > > > > > > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2018 10:29 AM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration > > > > If you do an ABAB channel plan, you can do four sectors per tower on 20mhz > channels using GPS sync, but that pretty much gives you no room to work > with if you into interference, so in practice, more using larger that 10mhz > channels probably isn't going to be realistic long term for most of us. > > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: > > 50Mhz is not a lot of room for even 2 providers in a county wide area. > Because customer wants 4k tv to work so either 15mhz or 20mhz wide > channel spacing is needed how many channels can be squeezed out of that > including reuse with gps? > Scaling can become a major problem as well for both neighbors. Just > another band turned to crap after everyone becomes a wisp in your area. > > Medusa save us from the nether regions of UHD4k LOL > > On 04/01/2018 11:01 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > The problem is that it was impractical to register every subscriber > location. I registered 60 locations one night and it took me several > hours. There was no way I was going to invest that much labor into > registrations. They needed both a bulk registration method and to make > their registration page respond faster. > > > > > > That said, I have had coordination conversations with another registrant. > It was friendly, but it was only marginally productive. We were not able > to agree on TDD ratios or a plan for dividing the available 50mhz, so > basically we kept doing our own thing and resolving interference cases > individually as they came up. It sounds like some of you have bad > neighbors. > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > > To: "af" <af@afmug.com> > > Sent: 3/31/2018 9:48:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration > > > > From what I've seen, most people are just registering every radio for the > entire 50mhz, so it's not like you can use the information in the database > to actually coordinate anything (and I think that really is the best option > in the current climate, since there's a good chance your going to have to > change channels at some point because of newcomers to the area)... then > there are also the people that never bother to register anything, or > register a few radios and then give up because it's too much work... > > > > I'm aware of at least four other companies in our general area that have > AP/base stations registered, but last I checked only one of them had any > customer locations registered... for some reason, a lot of people seem to > be under the Impression that you only need to register the AP (or eNB, in > LTE speak), but that's not the case and never was - everything is supposed > to be registered (there is an exception for mobile devices, but that > doesn't apply to anything a WISP would be using). > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:05 PM, David Coudron < > david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote: > > You need to register the stations, but there is no requirement to > coordinate. However, depending on how many folks are in your area it > still might be a good idea to make sure they are up to date on all their > registrations. Sometimes we find folks don’t always update their > information on the FCC site and you can still run into interference. If > there are too many folks in the area, it is easier to find open channels > and then register. > > > > > > David Coudron > > > > > > > > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.65 NN base registration > > > > I have a NN license but have never used it, what is the best > practice/process for registering a base when you have other operators with > bases registered nearby? Do you need to coordinate anything? > > > > I'm looking at deploying in a small town but 2-3 other operators have > bases already registered in the area, can I still deploy? Obviously need to > do a SA before anything.... > > > > Thanks, > > > > TJ > > > > > > -- > > >
