I am changing a PMP 100.  That is 2.4 GHz over to an EPM P1000 subscriber
module and the PMP 100 works perfectly with the standard PMP 100 power
supply or I can even switch it over  to the EPMP1000 standard supply and it
will work. But if I put the EPMP 1000 on it own supply that comes with it
or the standard PMP 100 supply the radio never shows power.  I have tested
the cable for continuity and is OK. I have to think  that the cable is
resistive and the Voltage is too low at the EPMP1000. I have not checked
that yet. The cable length is right at 100 feet. Strange!  The EPMP1000
works fine on a 6’ jumper to the PS.

Phil Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Corp.
Pittsburg, KS

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:56 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Right pretty sure Chuck removed the ethernet issues with the newer
> revision cards.  My issue, though, is the units will lose power for
> anywhere from a moment (so they simply power cycle) to 30 minutes.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm running some 1k GPS radios from RSD-150C-24's which always put out
>> 24.0VDC. Injectors all at the bottom, 100-200 feet of cable and they work
>> fine.
>>
>> The only real problem I've had is getting them to maintain gigabit links
>> without errors. They'll either run fine with 50-100 CRC/FCS errors a day.
>> Or I'll get lots more FCS errors and the links will drop a couple times a
>> day. Some of them will eventually fall back to 100Mbps. Take the GigE-APCs
>> out and they run gigabit with no errors.
>>
>> Chuck sent me some modified CAT6-APCs to try. I just haven't had time to
>> dive into it yet. Hopefully next week when we replace a couple of those 1k
>> GPS radios with PTP550s.
>>
>> On 5/2/2018 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> There is - here are the counters: https://imgur.com/a/FdVP9IF
>> Note that bb5/6/7 have been losing power frequently too.
>>
>> If the voltage is too low, why would they randomly reboot maybe once or
>> twice a week and then be fine for months at a time?
>>
>> The runs are well under 100m.  24vdc feeds the NEMA enclosure, then we
>> have maybe 25 feet of cat5 to APs.
>>
>> I would think it's no more than 1 volt loss from my 24v source to the AP,
>> but I have not verified this.  I know it's 24v at the green terminal block
>> to the POE injector/Gigabit Sync injector.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a base unit attached to these, you should look at the event
>>> counters on the tripped line in the binary/boolean tab to determine if the
>>> device is detecting an overcurrent event.    If it's seeing an overcurrent
>>> trip, then yes, check the surge suppressors.
>>>
>>> The other item is what has been mentioned, if you have too low of a
>>> voltage into the PowerInjector, the ePMP's will reboot.   This is
>>> especially true in cold weather since the units seem to draw more even
>>> after startup.   You need around at least 26V on the input of the power
>>> injector, if not a bit more, for an ePMP to run correctly on a full 100m of
>>> cable.  You could probably get away with a bit lower voltage on shorter
>>> runs.
>>>
>>> The 10/100 injector doesn't drop quite as many volts due to it being a
>>> switch closure instead of a semiconductor junction, so you might be right
>>> on the edge of what is acceptable.
>>>
>>> BTW, too low of voltage will also cause 'trips', as when the voltage
>>> drops below acceptable ranges for the ePMP, the ePMP power supply circuit
>>> tries to pull more and more power from the CAT5 cable, eventually causing
>>> what looks like a brief short circuit just before it shuts down.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've got two of these with problems:
>>>> http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/
>>>>
>>>> However one of these gives me no problems:
>>>> http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/
>>>>
>>>> I have a 24vdc plant going up the tower.  In the box it feeds these
>>>> three Packetflux units.  The 4 channel POE injector has given me 0 
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> I've got Cambium ePMP on the PowerInjector and it has been randomly?
>>>> rebooting units for several months.  Yesterday one of the ports just
>>>> decided to turn off for 20 minutes and come right back.  We've replaced the
>>>> line & radio to make sure it's the box, but all signs point to it.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else seen this or am I lucky in getting the only two units
>>>> with power problems on them?  AFAIK sync has been just as reliable as the
>>>> power through them.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Troy,+OH%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>Suite
>>>> 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Troy,+OH%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>Troy,
>>>> OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
   Phil

Philip J. Rankin, CEO
Wireless Telecommunications, Corp.
A division of;
Mobilcom Wireless Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762
620-231-8188

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