We never deployed any 2.4GHz ePMP, but I believe all of the original 2.4GHz ePMP 1k's (integrated, connectorized, connectorized GPS) and the 5GHz connectorized GPS radio are 802.3af. The voltage regulator will only tolerate 20-60VDC. That's when the flash (or RAM?) heater issue came up in the winter for a lot of folks. Too much current (and compounding voltage drop) with the heater on down around 21-22 volts. The fix was to use a 29.5VDC supply.

Original 5GHz integrated and connectorized are 14-30VDC, -4/5 +7/8 only.

2.4 and 5GHz Force180/200 radios moved to the bridge rectifier polarity agnostic setup, however still only 14-30VDC. Same now with the 450b SMs.

I have some 5GHz 1k GPS radios powered from a RSD150C-24 and 100-150' cables for about a year and a half now and they've been working fine. We're getting ready to replace those with PTP550s. So now of course I have to re-wire a bunch of stuff for 48VDC.

Also have an AD-155B at a site. 27.6VDC float voltage to the gear. Got an old Rev E SyncPipe on top and it shows Vin: 26.1v. That's 200 feet of cable. 1.5v drop. Those ePMP GPs radios under load are probably still seeing 25+ volts. Off of an RSD, I'd guess 22 volts which would be cutting it close. The nice thing is, those can easily be moved to 48VDC. I wish Cambium did this with the 450i, but meh I guess.

On 5/6/2018 4:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
The GPS synced radios won't boot at 20v, but the subscriber modules should be able to run at a bit lower voltage (unless the 2.4ghz radios are different, which is possible). With a standard 29v ePMP power supply, there certainly shouldn't be anywhere near that much voltage drop on 100' of cable anyway (unless that cable is complete junk).

The thing that seems really odd to me about that, is that an ePMP normally should be drawing quite a bit less current than a PMP100 (which means less voltage drop). I'm not sure what the minimum voltage is with a PMP100, but I know they can have problems at 12v, so I can't see it being much lower than an ePMP SM.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    They don't boot at 20v.  I don't think you'd lose 4v at 100' but I
    could be wrong.


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    On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Philip Rankin
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

         I am changing a PMP 100.  That is 2.4 GHz over to an EPM
        P1000 subscriber module and the PMP 100 works perfectly with
        the standard PMP 100 power supply or I can even switch it over
         to the EPMP1000 standard supply and it will work. But if I
        put the EPMP 1000 on it own supply that comes with it or the
        standard PMP 100 supply the radio never shows power.  I have
        tested the cable for continuity and is OK. I have to think
         that the cable is resistive and the Voltage is too low at the
        EPMP1000. I have not checked that yet. The cable length is
        right at 100 feet. Strange! The EPMP1000 works fine on a 6’
        jumper to the PS.

        Phil Rankin
        Wireless Telecommunications Corp.
        Pittsburg, KS

        On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:56 PM Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Right pretty sure Chuck removed the ethernet issues with
            the newer revision cards.  My issue, though, is the units
            will lose power for anywhere from a moment (so they simply
            power cycle) to 30 minutes.


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            On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM, George Skorup
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I'm running some 1k GPS radios from RSD-150C-24's
                which always put out 24.0VDC. Injectors all at the
                bottom, 100-200 feet of cable and they work fine.

                The only real problem I've had is getting them to
                maintain gigabit links without errors. They'll either
                run fine with 50-100 CRC/FCS errors a day. Or I'll get
                lots more FCS errors and the links will drop a couple
                times a day. Some of them will eventually fall back to
                100Mbps. Take the GigE-APCs out and they run gigabit
                with no errors.

                Chuck sent me some modified CAT6-APCs to try. I just
                haven't had time to dive into it yet. Hopefully next
                week when we replace a couple of those 1k GPS radios
                with PTP550s.

                On 5/2/2018 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
                There is - here are the counters:
                https://imgur.com/a/FdVP9IF
                <https://imgur.com/a/FdVP9IF>
                Note that bb5/6/7 have been losing power frequently too.

                If the voltage is too low, why would they randomly
                reboot maybe once or twice a week and then be fine
                for months at a time?

                The runs are well under 100m.  24vdc feeds the NEMA
                enclosure, then we have maybe 25 feet of cat5 to APs.

                I would think it's no more than 1 volt loss from my
                24v source to the AP, but I have not verified this. 
                I know it's 24v at the green terminal block to the
                POE injector/Gigabit Sync injector.


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                On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Forrest Christian
                (List Account) <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    If you have a base unit attached to these, you
                    should look at the event counters on the tripped
                    line in the binary/boolean tab to determine if
                    the device is detecting an overcurrent event.   
                    If it's seeing an overcurrent trip, then yes,
                    check the surge suppressors.

                    The other item is what has been mentioned, if you
                    have too low of a voltage into the PowerInjector,
                    the ePMP's will reboot.   This is especially true
                    in cold weather since the units seem to draw more
                    even after startup.   You need around at least
                    26V on the input of the power injector, if not a
                    bit more, for an ePMP to run correctly on a full
                    100m of cable.  You could probably get away with
                    a bit lower voltage on shorter runs.

                    The 10/100 injector doesn't drop quite as many
                    volts due to it being a switch closure instead of
                    a semiconductor junction, so you might be right
                    on the edge of what is acceptable.

                    BTW, too low of voltage will also cause 'trips',
                    as when the voltage drops below acceptable ranges
                    for the ePMP, the ePMP power supply circuit tries
                    to pull more and more power from the CAT5 cable,
                    eventually causing what looks like a brief short
                    circuit just before it shuts down.

                    On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        I've got two of these with problems:
                        
http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/
                        
<http://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/>


                        However one of these gives me no problems:
                        
http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/
                        
<http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/>

                        I have a 24vdc plant going up the tower.  In
                        the box it feeds these three Packetflux
                        units.  The 4 channel POE injector has given
                        me 0 problems.

                        I've got Cambium ePMP on the PowerInjector
                        and it has been randomly? rebooting units for
                        several months. Yesterday one of the ports
                        just decided to turn off for 20 minutes and
                        come right back.  We've replaced the line &
                        radio to make sure it's the box, but all
                        signs point to it.

                        Has anyone else seen this or am I lucky in
                        getting the only two units with power
                        problems on them?  AFAIK sync has been just
                        as reliable as the power through them.

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