First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much grief 
for all involved.
I am rabid about seat belt use.  I lost a son, who was wearing a seatbelt in a 
wreck.  My wife was driving.  She was saved by her seat belt so I am thankful 
for that.  I was an EMT for a while and have seen people walk away from 
horrific accidents because they simply buckled up.  Same car dead people came 
out of the windshield.

There is only so much you can do.  If the other employee did not have the 
authority to fire the guy, he did everything he could do.  He shouldn’t beat 
himself up because someone else chose to be stupid.  

Seconds, astounding about the Rohn anchor point strength.  Have you told Rohn.

I got an OSHA citation once.  I went in with the whole company, set through a 
session where they chewed my ass for about an hour.  Then another hour of 
training, then we were on probation for a while with periodic visits.  They 
reduced my $25K find to $2500.

The main take-away from the experience is that you need to show a “ compliant 
attitude”.  Fall all over yourself showing them that you need to learn how to 
do things better and you need their help to learn better methods etc.  Kiss 
their ass, treat them as gods, and in the process you may actually learn 
valuable things.  But that whole showing a “broken heart and contrite spirit” 
thing is key to getting the fine reduced.  

Just lay on the floor and say “beat me master, I have sinned, please show me a 
better way” type of thing.  

From: David Sovereen 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Rohn 25

Hi All,

A little background: We had an employee die late last year.  He climbed a Rohn 
25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his fall protection 
gear.  He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his fall protection gear 
was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him to put his harness on, but 
he exercised poor judgement and climbed without it anyway.  He slipped, fell 
approximately 30 feet, and was pronounced dead about an hour later at the 
hospital.

We received two OSHA Citations today.  I’ve attached them. 



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I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday.  He tells 
me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to support 5,000 lbs 
and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for securing oneself.  He says 
all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a lift.  I think they are just trying to 
come up with reasons to fine us.

When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person to 
identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation, were.  
When my employees go through the training, they become competent in determining 
where suitable anchor points are, do they not?

If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear, told to 
always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use it, am I 
responsible?  One of my employees was there and told him to put his harness on 
and he refused.  Consequently, that employee has gone through a lot of turmoil 
putting himself through “what if” scenarios.

Just looking for thoughts on this.  Fight it, and if so what approach?  Pay it 
and make it go away?  Something else?

Thanks,

David Sovereen
 
Mercury Network Corporation
2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640
989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free |  989.837.3780 fax
 
Telephone |  Internet  |  Security Alarm Monitoring

david.sover...@mercury.net
www.mercury.net




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Hi All,

A little background: We had an employee die late last year.  He climbed a Rohn 
25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his fall protection 
gear.  He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his fall protection gear 
was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him to put his harness on, but 
he exercised poor judgement and climbed without it anyway.  He slipped, fell 
approximately 30 feet, and was pronounced dead about an hour later at the 
hospital.

We received two OSHA Citations today.  I’ve attached them.



I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday.  He tells 
me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to support 5,000 lbs 
and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for securing oneself.  He says 
all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a lift.  I think they are just trying to 
come up with reasons to fine us.

When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person to 
identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation, were.  
When my employees go through the training, they become competent in determining 
where suitable anchor points are, do they not?

If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear, told to 
always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use it, am I 
responsible?  One of my employees was there and told him to put his harness on 
and he refused.  Consequently, that employee has gone through a lot of turmoil 
putting himself through “what if” scenarios.

Just looking for thoughts on this.  Fight it, and if so what approach?  Pay it 
and make it go away?  Something else?

Thanks,

David Sovereen
 
Mercury Network Corporation
2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640
989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free |  989.837.3780 fax
 
Telephone  |  Internet  |  Security Alarm Monitoring
 
david.sover...@mercury.net <mailto:david.sover...@mercury.net>
www.mercury.net <http://www.mercury.net/>



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