Sorry to both of you for your loss. I have physically stopped guys from climbing without gear. But if someone is hell bent to be stupid not much you can do.
Jaime Solorza On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 10:49 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > First, let me say that I am so sorry that your employee caused so much > grief for all involved. > I am rabid about seat belt use. I lost a son, who was wearing a seatbelt > in a wreck. My wife was driving. She was saved by her seat belt so I am > thankful for that. I was an EMT for a while and have seen people walk away > from horrific accidents because they simply buckled up. Same car dead > people came out of the windshield. > > There is only so much you can do. If the other employee did not have the > authority to fire the guy, he did everything he could do. He shouldn’t > beat himself up because someone else chose to be stupid. > > Seconds, astounding about the Rohn anchor point strength. Have you told > Rohn. > > I got an OSHA citation once. I went in with the whole company, set > through a session where they chewed my ass for about an hour. Then another > hour of training, then we were on probation for a while with periodic > visits. They reduced my $25K find to $2500. > > The main take-away from the experience is that you need to show a “ > compliant attitude”. Fall all over yourself showing them that you need to > learn how to do things better and you need their help to learn better > methods etc. Kiss their ass, treat them as gods, and in the process you > may actually learn valuable things. But that whole showing a “broken heart > and contrite spirit” thing is key to getting the fine reduced. > > Just lay on the floor and say “beat me master, I have sinned, please show > me a better way” type of thing. > > *From:* David Sovereen > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rohn 25 > > Hi All, > > A little background: We had an employee die late last year. He climbed a > Rohn 25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his fall > protection gear. He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his fall > protection gear was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him to put > his harness on, but he exercised poor judgement and climbed without it > anyway. He slipped, fell approximately 30 feet, and was pronounced dead > about an hour later at the hospital. > > We received two OSHA Citations today. I’ve attached them. > > > ------------------------------ > > > I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday. He > tells me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to support > 5,000 lbs and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for securing > oneself. He says all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a lift. I think > they are just trying to come up with reasons to fine us. > > When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person > to identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation, > were. When my employees go through the training, they become competent in > determining where suitable anchor points are, do they not? > > If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear, > told to always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use it, > am I responsible? One of my employees was there and told him to put his > harness on and he refused. Consequently, that employee has gone through a > lot of turmoil putting himself through “what if” scenarios. > > Just looking for thoughts on this. Fight it, and if so what approach? > Pay it and make it go away? Something else? > > Thanks, > > *David Sovereen* > > Mercury Network Corporation > 2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640 > 989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free | 989.837.3780 fax > > Telephone *| *Internet* | *Security Alarm Monitoring > > david.sover...@mercury.net > www.mercury.net > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > Hi All, > > A little background: We had an employee die late last year. He climbed a > Rohn 25 tower at a residential customer location and did not use his fall > protection gear. He went through safe climb training at CITCA, his fall > protection gear was in his truck, and a co-worker with him told him to put > his harness on, but he exercised poor judgement and climbed without it > anyway. He slipped, fell approximately 30 feet, and was pronounced dead > about an hour later at the hospital. > > We received two OSHA Citations today. I’ve attached them. > > > > I spoke with the OSHA representative handling our matter on Friday. He > tells me that Rohn 25s have not been tested by the manufacturer to support > 5,000 lbs and therefore are not a suitable anchor point for securing > oneself. He says all work on Rohn 25s must be done from a lift. I think > they are just trying to come up with reasons to fine us. > > When I went through safe tower climbing, *I* became the competent person > to identify where suitable anchor points, using the 5,000 lb estimation, > were. When my employees go through the training, they become competent in > determining where suitable anchor points are, do they not? > > If an employee is given instruction on the use of fall protection gear, > told to always use it, and exercises bad judgement and refuses to use it, > am I responsible? One of my employees was there and told him to put his > harness on and he refused. Consequently, that employee has gone through a > lot of turmoil putting himself through “what if” scenarios. > > Just looking for thoughts on this. Fight it, and if so what approach? > Pay it and make it go away? Something else? > > Thanks, > > David Sovereen > > Mercury Network Corporation > 2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640 > 989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free | 989.837.3780 fax > > Telephone | Internet | Security Alarm Monitoring > > david.sover...@mercury.net <mailto:david.sover...@mercury.net> > www.mercury.net <http://www.mercury.net/> > > > >
